Rant: Private security for FS road closure cannot speak english

[Rotnguns]

Not a rant against the forest service, and I get that they need to economize by contracting out security at road closures in fire areas, but geez, is it too much to ask that at least one of the security team speak English? Our exchange went something like this:

"Hello! The road has to be closed now"

That's too bad - I hunt up here every year. Is it burned out back there?

"Yes, people hunt here all the time. They bring guns."

Is it burned out up there?

"What a nice car you have!"

 

[wytx]

So I'll ask, why the heck would you go into a closed area and give those folks an issue?

 

[Rotnguns]

So I'll ask, why the heck would you go into a closed area and give those folks an issue?

It's not a closed area. It's an FS road intersecting the Banks Lowman road, which is open. The FS road itself is closed temporarily - well marked, but I was just asking the security guards about conditions.

 

[wyosteve]

Maybe there's a grow operation up there and the 'security' is not contracted with the Forest Service!?

 

[Rotnguns]

Maybe there's a grow operation up there and the 'security' is not contracted with the Forest Service!?

Say, you may have something there...

 

[Axlrod]

Maybe they need security because people can't read "Road closed"? I've never seen security on a fire closure, just a sign.

 

[Steve300xcw]

It's not a closed area. It's an FS road intersecting the Banks Lowman road, which is open. The FS road itself is closed temporarily - well marked, but I was just asking the security guards about conditions.

Lotta them boys havnt been told much either... Just park your ass here and dont let any tourists,hunters, looky-lous etc through. Gotta do that because nobody respects a simple sign these days.

I bet he spoke english better than he let on. That was probly just the fastest way to get rid of you. Imagine he's been getting asked the same question by a pile of people by now.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Maybe they need security because people can't read "Road closed"? I've never seen security on a fire closure, just a sign.

Pretty common around here. They'll set up their signs and reader boards at most the junctions. Then have a guy bored outta his mind sitting at the main ones, just turning people away

Back when we were building logging road, I started to hate hunting season for the same reasons

 

[RS_Non-Res]

This ... Strategy for Other Hunters in Your Spot

And they do speak english, just not to you.

 

[Drenalin]

I bet there's a UFO crash site up there, and .gov is trying to obfuscate that with a phony story and language barriers.

 

[Weldor]

Not a rant against the forest service, and I get that they need to economize by contracting out security at road closures in fire areas, but geez, is it too much to ask that at least one of the security team speak English? Our exchange went something like this:

"Hello! The road has to be closed now"

That's too bad - I hunt up here every year. Is it burned out back there?

"Yes, people hunt here all the time. They bring guns."

Is it burned out up there?

"What a nice car you have!"

Welcome to America.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Been on a few wildland fire deployments, never seen private security, only, FS law enforcement, local sheriff, pd, National guard or fish and game pulling security. I know we have some dedicated wildland guys here they could probably clear this up

 

[*zap*]

no habla, hide your cats...

 

[Steve300xcw]

Been on a few wildland fire deployments, never seen private security, only, FS law enforcement, local sheriff, pd, National guard or fish and game pulling security. I know we have some dedicated wildland guys here they could probably clear this up

I think calling it private security is a bit much. Its normally just a guy sitting in a car wearing a shiny vest