Potential Increase In Wyoming Application Fees

[35WhelenAI]

If anyone thinks this is the last increase WGF has in store is sadly mistaken.
You’re gonna have lots of bad days

I can't agree more, being a resident of Colorado. The out-of-state influx has ruined hunting as we have known it in many units. Can't count the number of times I've been approached by an out of state Hunter, comes wandering through asking for directions. I'm sure nobody here from out of state would do that. However those are the folks to thank for the increasing fees and changing regulations. Out of state folks are going to to pay to play and bitching about it is rather ironic.

I lived in North Carolina for a year, and out of state tag was for six deer and two turkeys as I hadn't established residency by the time hunting season came around. $200. If six deer and two turkeys for 200 bucks isn't a deal, I don't know what is. In the grand scheme folks don't realize the issues they are causing for themselves down the line by jumping on the bandwagon and coming out west. Stay at home and get good at hunting the game in your state, just like I've gotten good at the game I'm hunting in my state. Or just don't complain.

 

[35WhelenAI]

@PredatoronthePrairie, haven't seen a post in this thread, what's your stance?

 

[elkocd]

Some of these comments are insane. I'm not sure that some people know that wildlife is held in trust for the residents of that particular state. The are not held in trust for NRs of another state. Hunting a state you don't live in is a luxury and a privilege not a right. You have no entitlement to the wildlife of a state you don't live in. If you have a complaint about how wildlife is managed in your state and or fees, more power to you. If you're complaining about another state, then you better pack up your chit and move to that state or just suck it up and consider yourself luck that the state provides opportunity at all the NRs.

 

[LostArra]

Some of these comments are insane. I'm not sure that some people know that wildlife is held in trust for the residents of that particular state. The are not held in trust for NRs of another state. Hunting a state you don't live in is a luxury and a privilege not a right. You have no entitlement to the wildlife of a state you don't live in. If you have a complaint about how wildlife is managed in your state and or fees, more power to you. If you're complaining about another state, then you better pack up your chit and move to that state or just suck it up and consider yourself luck that the state provides opportunity at all the NRs.

Hey it's America. When prices go up, Americans bitch. No different than Jackson home prices.
$1 increase for eggs is national news.

 

[PredatoronthePrairie]

@PredatoronthePrairie, haven't seen a post in this thread, what's your stance?

I try to stay out of these threads cause after seeing them on repeat year after year with the same arguments on both sides. You quickly realize they solve nothing.

But since u asked.

Believe Res should be entitled to the largest share of the pie, and pay less than NRes.

But to constantly nickle and dime the hunter/fisherman which have carried the task of conservation for decades. Grows old.

All to increase the coffers of a bloated gov agency.

Hikers, bikers, birdwatchers all impact wildlife to a degree. The agency's need to find alternative revenue streams or figure out how better utilize their available budgets. (Wishfull thinking right).

I just don't think we want to go down the road of who ever has the most money. Gets to partake in God's creation.

This has been pointed out a few times in the thread. But they just keep finding ways to increase costs without actually having to provide anything in return.

 

[dirtytough]

Some of these comments are insane. I'm not sure that some people know that wildlife is held in trust for the residents of that particular state. The are not held in trust for NRs of another state. Hunting a state you don't live in is a luxury and a privilege not a right. You have no entitlement to the wildlife of a state you don't live in. If you have a complaint about how wildlife is managed in your state and or fees, more power to you. If you're complaining about another state, then you better pack up your chit and move to that state or just suck it up and consider yourself luck that the state provides opportunity at all the NRs.

In a thread going on just like this one right now, residents are complaining because people are moving in and residents can’t afford the housing now.

Non residents are complaining because of price increases.

Everyone is complaining.

There is definitely a domino effect. Make it so enticing to be a resident of XYZ compared to non res. So people move. It’s not like there are a surplus of houses so new housing gets built.

Houses aren’t getting built on summer range. And a lot of people that are moving in have more money than the residents. Now the kids can’t afford to live there so mom and dad are complaining about the “rich people moving in”.

When most posts by residents sound like yours. “If you don’t like it move there.”

In the end that will equate to less animals and more places that aren’t affordable for residents to live.

Keep beating that drum though.

 

[elkocd]

In a thread going on just like this one right now, residents are complaining because people are moving in and residents can’t afford the housing now.

Non residents are complaining because of price increases.

Everyone is complaining.

There is definitely a domino effect. Make it so enticing to be a resident of XYZ compared to non res. So people move. It’s not like there are a surplus of houses so new housing gets built.

Houses aren’t getting built on summer range. And a lot of people that are moving in have more money than the residents. Now the kids can’t afford to live there so mom and dad are complaining about the “rich people moving in”.

When most posts by residents sound like yours. “If you don’t like it move there.”

In the end that will equate to less animals and more places that aren’t affordable for residents to live.

Keep beating that drum though.

Completely different topic, the point is that if you are a NR you have no say in how the wildlife is managed or related fees in another state. That is not my opinion or thoughts, it is just a simple fact. Not asking anyone to move, but that is your only option if you want a say in how the wildlife is managed or fees are applied in a particular state. It is very much the same if you wanted a say in how a state government is run.

It would be more helpful for people to stick to the actual facts in conversations like this rather than all the heated opinions.

 

[dirtytough]

If you say so.

 

[juglow]

Money grab...the revenue alone that the points game brings to the state is insane! MT perfected it....forcing the need for 3 points as a 2 point applicant has worse odds over a 1 point applicant.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

I love hunting and just built two new guns to get me thru my older years.Have plenty of trips planned but the more I think about it the more I’m leaning on fishing,hiking and kayaking.
Maybe one hunt every year or two.
Shits getting out hand on the money and draw side.
Maybe you are in a wealthy circle but of all the people i know that used to go out west all have stopped due the that.
It’s just like classic cars.Its getting to be a hobby for the wealthy.
Par for the course though for a country we’re a 4x4 pickup cost 50-100000

 

[LostArra]

Completely different topic, the point is that if you are a NR you have no say in how the wildlife is managed or related fees in another state. That is not my opinion or thoughts, it is just a simple fact. Not asking anyone to move, but that is your only option if you want a say in how the wildlife is managed or fees are applied in a particular state. It is very much the same if you wanted a say in how a state government is run.

It would be more helpful for people to stick to the actual facts in conversations like this rather than all the heated opinions.

I'm not sure the average resident in any state actually has a say in how their wildlife is managed.
In theory your point is valid.

 

[rookieforever33]

We are a community of hunters. Unlimited OTC tags to non residents is a money grab by the state government. Allowing a percentage of your tags to non res does not add hunters to the landscape. Loss of habitat and enviromental issues lead to less game. Those non res tags add dollars to game and fish coffers to keep resident tag prices down. Non res hunters add jobs and dollars to the state economy when visiting there. Completely blocking non resident hunting leads to higher fees to all residents and loss of revenue to economies that rely on it. All of us should be complaining about mismanged government plans, not other hunters.

 

[S.Clancy]

While you guys are bitching I was out having some fun!!!

That is all