Potential Increase In Wyoming Application Fees

[Indian Summer]

Insane take

That’s what happens when things become about the principle instead of the money. It’s not always a matter of if you can pay for something, but sometimes if you will or not. We the people are sick of this. Especially non residents. Hunting is a privilege for both residents and non. I have never bitched about the differences in the two. But if your bills are the freaking high you might want to step it up instead of just staking a claim to what’s yours. Ok open that can of worms right??? “If you don’t like it stay home” Yeah ok.

 

[Gerbdog]

Probably someone outta just ask for a price breakdown, its a government entity, surely there has to be some sort of free information act type thing that can be used if people are that worried about the cost breakdown of the price increase?

I think its a very reasonable question to ask, write to your senator if you live in Wyoming. I doubt they will answer to our of staters.

I'd do that before poaching, starting a car on fire and rolling it off a cliff, or throwing tea in the harbor.

If it werent for anti-poaching, and management, there would be zero elk to hunt. At all. Left to their own devices humans eliminate them completely, you only gotta go back 100 years and there were less than 50k elk across the whole country.

 

[Indian Summer]

I hear you Gerb. I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I’m 60 years old so I can remember when the world was a hell of a lot more sane. These days it’s all about money.

I don’t think I need an expense report. It’s a pretty clear case of supply and demand. It will never happen obviously, but if the demand were to become less than the supply, the price would drop overnight.

 

[Gerbdog]

I hear you Gerb. I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I’m 60 years old so I can remember when the world was a hell of a lot more sane. These days it’s all about money.

I don’t think I need an expense report. It’s a pretty clear case of supply and demand. It will never happen obviously, but if the demand were to become less than the supply, the price would drop overnight.

Had the same problem this morning, totally get it, third cup of coffee and a decent lunch helped a lot.

Tired of it all being about money these days as well. I dont see anything getting cheaper anywhere for anything for any reason and its tiring.

I agree, i think its just supply and demand. They know they can charge more and they know it will still sell.

 

[wytx]

Wow, threads get locked over burning units or areas but talk of poaching is ok?
Odd world we live in now.

 

[LostArra]

I agree, i think its just supply and demand. They know they can charge more and they know it will still sell.

In this case (and now Montana's proposed fee increase) it is not about supply and demand. The actual TAG has a supply or allocation and actually has value because the holder gets to hunt. So charge NR whatever the market will bear to keep the resident tags dirt cheap. Applications are different. They are infinite. This is solely a money grab from the unsuccessful applicants. The G&F departments are just looking for more and more pockets to pick that don't include their constituents. I would rather see higher tag prices while application fees stay minimal.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Cheap applications contribute to point creep. If the application price is increased, maybe the point hoarders will start applying for tags they can actually draw and more people can start moving through the line. It also wouldn’t hurt to lower the number of new people jumping in for points.

 

[realunlucky]

Cheap applications contribute to point creep. If the application price is increased, maybe the point hoarders will start applying for tags they can actually draw and more people can start moving through the line. It also wouldn’t hurt to lower the number of new people jumping in for points.

What's the number that would make you stop applying?
Let's start there

Raising the bar to entry sounds great until it's so high you can't reach it.

Why not auction every tag to the highest bidder that should only keep the truly elite hunters in the game.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

You people who are passive enough to bend it over and take it from behind are definitely not my kind of people. That’s not the attitude this country was built on. Letting the government shove shit down your throat like you are powerless to do anything. The participants of the Boston tea party would shake their heads!

The special goes to $2000 then this? Laugh all you want, but I don’t need a license in my pocket to kill elk. Try me. And I mean it. Now you’re gonna tell me that I’m a dirtbag for suggesting breaking the law. I’ll give you the same answer that they do, because I can.


If you are so greedy that several slices of pie aren’t enough and you want the whole pie, you might find yourself getting none of it.

You do know a reduced price cow tag is less than 300 bucks right? You do know you aren't required to apply for the special draw? Or would you rather just poach?

 

[TheWhitetailNut]

And I gladly pay to participate in a few.

On it's surface, I don't disagree with you and it's easy for a "have" to sneer at have nots in terms of opportunity. Every time I saw a big increase in cost I thought "Great, less competitors"! But it turns out there's alot of us "haves" in this country and the competition continues to increase. The reason the North American model has done so well for the last century is because folks of every class still had an interest in it's success. I remember being a kid 40 years ago "feels weird to say that", and hearing poor people whine "hunting is getting to be a rich mans game". I took the lesson and spent a couple decades positioning myself to take advantage. That said, we need a mechanism so anyone who wants to go can. Anyone still can today, but for how much longer is that true?

I guess I'm very thankful I'm living the life of my dreams, I want future generations to do the same without getting fleeced for no better reason than government waste because they can.

 

[Indian Summer]

You do know a reduced price cow tag is less than 300 bucks right? You do know you aren't required to apply for the special draw? Or would you rather just poach?

Go hunt a cow he says? That’s your solution. Yeah…. Your ancestors had nothing to do with founding this country that’s for sure. Yes I know what I can apply for. Very familiar with all of the rules and regulations. Also familiar with what is going on and why. Passive I am NOT.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

Go hunt a cow he says? That’s your solution. Yeah…. Your ancestors had nothing to do with founding this country that’s for sure. Yes I know what I can apply for. Very familiar with all of the rules and regulations. Also familiar with what is going on and why. Passive I am NOT.

I guess i don't understand. I thought you were going to poach because you were either too cheap to pay for a tag, or you couldn't afford one. But apparently it's just a choice?

So because you don't want to, poaching is ok?

Edited for more civility

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

I have never bitched about the differences in the two

First time for everything huh?

 

[realunlucky]

If you can't post anything without insults, just stop posting

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[Indian Summer]

I guess i don't understand. I thought you were going to poach because you were either too cheap to pay for a tag, or you couldn't afford one. But apparently it's just a choice?

So because you don't want to, poaching is ok? You might not be passive, but you could be aggressively retarded.

You have a reading comprehension problem. Maybe slow down. It’s not about money. It’s about greed. It’s about principle. Maybe you weren’t taught about that.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

You have a reading comprehension problem. Maybe slow down. It’s not about money. It’s about greed. It’s about principle. Maybe you weren’t taught about that.

So you are guaranteed a bull elk tag in Wyoming, by principal? Since if you don't want to pay for one, you'll just poach.

It would seem the you believe you deserve a bull vs a cow tag, not based off of greed, because you oppose that, but based off of God given right?

Please teach me about principle regarding elk tags.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Wyoming has the lowest population of any state, the 2nd lowest density, no income tax, only 4% sales tax.

But a WGF price hike is greed?

 

[waspocrew]

Gotta pay to play - I hunt Wyoming every year. A little more cash to chase bulls won't deter me.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Hunting is a privilege for residents and non-residents, just happens to be the state controls the game within their boundaries. The state makes laws for tag prices, allocations, legal methods of take, et al. Folks that deliberately break the laws don't have a place by the fire in any camp, even 100 or 150 years ago they were called criminals.

 

[cnelk]

If anyone thinks this is the last increase WGF has in store is sadly mistaken.
You’re gonna have lots of bad days