PA House Bill 1431 - Repeal ban on Sunday Hunting

Well, when I worked, I was given vacation and personal days. So, you guys that say you work, you do not get vacation or time off? Or do you use the time off for other activities.
 
Well, when I worked, I was given vacation and personal days. So, you guys that say you work, you do not get vacation or time off? Or do you use the time off for other activities.

As I would assume most other individuals do as well. However in my case with a family I only have so many days that I can use for "me" time. Most vacation and personal days are spent on family vacations or other activities throughout the year. 2-3 weeks of vacation time really isn't that much and gets used fairly quickly. It's only been recently that I've been able to convince the wife that I'm using some of my time off to hunt. It began with some push back, but now it's less of an issue. The problem also lies in that with me gone she also needs to burn days to be home with the kids in the evenings (she works 2nd shift), which creates more issues that more and more families are having to work around.

One could say that if someone wanted to hunt more they would make time for it, which I would argue that we aren't talking about the hardcore guy who consistently takes a week or more off every year. The unfortunate reality is that most hunters only get out on the weekends. There's a reason why game land parking lots are hammered on weekends, but practically empty during weekdays. It's also why most hunting camps are also vacant during the week, but show life Friday evening to Sunday. By allowing Sunday as an additional option it may or may not increase tag sales, but it will increase the number of days the more casual hunter could be in the woods and that's why I'm in full support of it.
 
To justify the hunting on sunday as someone with kids, if my daughter plays soccer in the fall we have somthing every saturday from september 1st until the third week in November between scouts and soccer.

Yes i have pto time and i take it but i run a large foodservices department so im never "off". Everyone one of my sundays in the same time frame there is no plans.

I usaully take a 4-6 day stretch in archery or a few long weekends in archery and try and match the weather along with the old monday gun opener but my job gets going with christmas stuff after that. I get out the saturdays usually but again im free both sundays.
 
Well, when I worked, I was given vacation and personal days. So, you guys that say you work, you do not get vacation or time off? Or do you use the time off for other activities.

I get three weeks, two go to fishing tournaments during the summer where I am part of the crew on a sport fishing boat and one goes to hunting which I use for our big weekends during the early muzzleloader and rifle season.

Again that is still a poor excuse for why we shouldn’t be allowed to hunt Sundays. I could use all of my vacation time just on hunting and still only have 10 extra days compared to the 17 Sunday hunting would add.

And again I’m already traveling 3 hours to camp so I’m not heading up for a day in the middle of the week, any days I take off are connected to the weekend to minimize the travel impact. So as a result Sunday is a day that is always in play for hunting and would provide more of an increase in my time afield regardless of how many vacation days I use.

The “I never had it so you don’t need it either mentality” is getting old. The ban on Sunday hunting predates the modern work week and was created at a time when the vast majority of hunters were farmers. Having one day off a week didn’t matter when you lived where you hunted and had no set work schedule, you could simply hunt whenever you had time the other 6 days a week.

However now the majority of hunters work M-F and have to travel to hunt meaning for the majority they have Saturday and Sunday as their only two options for most of the season. Denying hunters the opportunity to hunt 50% of the time they regularly have off for literally no good reason is stupid and should have been overturned decades ago.
 
Don't forget making somebody work on Sunday when they'd rather not so you can buy whatever at the store on your way out to hunt.....

Aren't all or most of these places already open due to corporate greed or all the other things you are already allowed to do. Gas stations aren't closed. Cabelas, Bass pro, Scheels. The only thing I need is usually a gas station, which I can easily make due with simply filling up the night before.

Maybe you have a mom & pop store feel like they should now be open if they were closed on Sundays. Everyone else is already open. Those mom & pop stores might even be happy to open for the extra business they would otherwise not have gotten.

I thought it was only the Heartland Bowhunter guys that need to stop and load up at a store before each hunt :)
 
Well, when I worked, I was given vacation and personal days. So, you guys that say you work, you do not get vacation or time off? Or do you use the time off for other activities.

I use vacation days to hunt. I use the remainder of my vacation days to take the family on trips.
 
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I don't know why someone wouldn't want the opportunity or want to take that opportunity away from someone else.

If we are going to pick and choose what our fellow man should and shouldn't be allowed to do on his Sunday. Then lets take everything away. No Sunday golf, no sunday football, no Sunday racing. Uncle gets to tell us all what we should do.

Because there is no constitutional right to hunt in PA, it’s a matter of fact, Uncle holds the cards.

It’s not difficult to get up to speed with the case law on this issue in PA and other states as well as judges rulings, and imo that’s important to an informed argument on either side of the fence. It’s certainly better than don’t tell me what I can’t do flag waving I think. Prove your point on legal merits. There’s groups who have been advocating for the Sunday repeal with some decent ammunition to consider there. Learn the arguments and counter arguments.

Given no recognized intrinsic right to hunt, overall public support seems somewhat of a thing of importance. Being able to represent the arguments for your POV in a way that is very thorough and thoughtful could be persuasive.

Embrace the reality that hunting is different than many other recreational activities, and be able to navigate the sad fact that dog walkers and romantics and runners, etc., have met their demise from acts of errant hunting, on public land and their own private land.

Good luck hashing it all out, to both sides.
 
Sounds like you guys need to get your priorities in line. Either Hunting, of family vacations. Also, if you have to travel 2-3 hours to hunt, it sounds like you did not research or plan when you chose where to live.

Life is full of choices, and most do not choose wisely. And the same goes for the career path that was taken. No one is forced to live or work in a specific place.

Still stand by no hunting on Sundays, if you can not get it done M-S maybe you should take up fishing.
 
Sounds like you guys need to get your priorities in line. Either Hunting, of family vacations. Also, if you have to travel 2-3 hours to hunt, it sounds like you did not research or plan when you chose where to live.

Life is full of choices, and most do not choose wisely. And the same goes for the career path that was taken. No one is forced to live or work in a specific place.

Still stand by no hunting on Sundays, if you can not get it done M-S maybe you should take up fishing.

Sounds like you have all the answers. None of us should have had children either or allow them or encourage them to play sports. You want a day off from hunting? Make it Monday or Wednesday.
 
Sounds like you guys need to get your priorities in line. Either Hunting, of family vacations. Also, if you have to travel 2-3 hours to hunt, it sounds like you did not research or plan when you chose where to live.

Life is full of choices, and most do not choose wisely. And the same goes for the career path that was taken. No one is forced to live or work in a specific place.

Still stand by no hunting on Sundays, if you can not get it done M-S maybe you should take up fishing.
Great thing about choice i choose to hunt on Sunday and every other day of the week.
 
Sounds like you guys need to get your priorities in line. Either Hunting, of family vacations. Also, if you have to travel 2-3 hours to hunt, it sounds like you did not research or plan when you chose where to live.

Life is full of choices, and most do not choose wisely. And the same goes for the career path that was taken. No one is forced to live or work in a specific place.

Still stand by no hunting on Sundays, if you can not get it done M-S maybe you should take up fishing.
Hypocrite much????

Here is a post you made on September 14, 2024

Eastern Idaho where we had bulls working from Tue-Fri, have died down. Heard two 1/2 hearted bugles this morning at 0800. Things here have turned way down.

anyone want to guess what day september 14 was on in 2024?? Sunday

So it's ok to hunt bugling elk on sunday for you but not whitetail in PA??

I spent the entire month of Sept, west chasing bulls. Have killed early and late.
The ENTIRE month?? hope that didn't include Sundays!!!

you also coitize people for driving 2-3 hours to hunt?? yet you post the following:

Been doing it for the last 30 years, Western Pa to Idaho 2200 miles on way. For years we pulled old trailers, always took spare hub assembly's and lots of tires.

perhaps you should take up fishing as a hobby rather than fuddposting on roklslide???? lol (although i did enjoy reading your TSS posts ..good stuff lol)
 
Sounds like you guys need to get your priorities in line. Either Hunting, of family vacations. Also, if you have to travel 2-3 hours to hunt, it sounds like you did not research or plan when you chose where to live.

Life is full of choices, and most do not choose wisely. And the same goes for the career path that was taken. No one is forced to live or work in a specific place.

Still stand by no hunting on Sundays, if you can not get it done M-S maybe you should take up fishing.

"It is idle to dispute with old men. Their opinions, like their cranial sutures, are ossified."
 
Don't forget making somebody work on Sunday when they'd rather not so you can buy whatever at the store on your way out to hunt.....
aww forced those poor people to work like they didnt have a choice. Employment is a mutual transaction in case you didnt know that. :D
 
Hypocrite much????

Here is a post you made on September 14, 2024

Eastern Idaho where we had bulls working from Tue-Fri, have died down. Heard two 1/2 hearted bugles this morning at 0800. Things here have turned way down.

anyone want to guess what day september 14 was on in 2024?? Sunday

So it's ok to hunt bugling elk on sunday for you but not whitetail in PA??

I spent the entire month of Sept, west chasing bulls. Have killed early and late.
The ENTIRE month?? hope that didn't include Sundays!!!

you also coitize people for driving 2-3 hours to hunt?? yet you post the following:

Been doing it for the last 30 years, Western Pa to Idaho 2200 miles on way. For years we pulled old trailers, always took spare hub assembly's and lots of tires.

perhaps you should take up fishing as a hobby rather than fuddposting on roklslide???? lol (although i did enjoy reading your TSS posts ..good stuff lol)
🍿 this is epic! Put that Boomer in his place!
 
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