Opinions wanted on ClotStop, any med prof or EMT's out there?

[go4thegusto]

There was an earlier discussion about these products and whether they have enough merit to carry them in a pack. I have had this in my possibles kit which I am trying to minimize. Would like feedback on whether this has enough merit to carry or just have a way to apply a tourniquet or pressure? thanks

 

[406]

They work. They also hurt like hell and make wound care down the road difficult. Careful with the packaging, avoid pin holes as that can reduce effective life of the product.

I wouldn't use one unless I was gut or groin shot. A "very likely to die" type scenario.

I hunt solo 95% of the time and I just carry a triangle bandage as a dressing/tourniquet.


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[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Probably depends on how you view the risk of an arterial cut. I don't carry any but I've casually wondered (but haven't bother to investigate) how much a small packet of the stuff weighs. I was opening the ribs on an antelope this weekend to get the heart out and was push/pulling them apart (rather than pulling from both sides or cutting one out) and when the offside bone broke while I was pushing the jagged edge slit the base of my palm vertically , that same cut 2" lower and deeper could have sucked... but off hand even with a slit wrist I think pressure and elevation of the wound could have contained the problem (presuming I didn't pass out). Sticking a leg artery with a knife/arrow/jagged branch on a log is the rare situation where the stuff could be a factor in my mind.

 

[Ross]

Money well spent along with any minimal weight had buddy stick his leg deep two years ago with knife 3 hrs down he was bleeding real good and this little product sealed it up nicely...never know when we could make a mistake with knife or broad head. I know I’ve cut myself many times through the decades with a slippery knife but have have been lucky and try to always not go too fast and get stupid.

 

[ColeyG]

Hemostatic wound dressings have a loyal following in the EMS and combat EMS world and for a good reason, they save lives. They are standard in most if not all combat IFAK kits.

That having been said, not all hemostatic dressings/treatments are created equal. The powder is fairly useless. Sponges are pretty good. The best is the treated gauze as it can be quickly and easily packed into wounds of various shapes and sizes.

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[dirtclod Az.]

Hard compress with anything will stop bleeding.Pressure is best,don't stop to inspect.Transport A.S.A.P.Tourniquete only in extreme emergency.

 

[manitou1]

It is very compact and lightweight.
I have taught combat first aid classes for 16 years now. It is a staple in the military IFAK (Individual First Aid Kit).
The trick is the get it down deep into the bleed to make contact if it is a severe bleed.
Pressure, pressure dressings and elevation are all initial protocals prior to using quick clot agents, and can be very effective.

 

[Desk Jockey]

I carry a cut down IFAk - CAT tourniquet (3oz) iz bandage (4oz) and a quick clot combat gauze (1 oz). I have enough training to know how to use them. I figure the possibility of a major bleed is higher while hunting than most other things I do. I agree with the post above that the quick clot stuff is probably going to be best for something where you can’t get a pressure dressing or a tourniquet on it. If I am being honest my kit is probably inadequate to deal with a gun shot as you will likely have both an entry and a pretty messy exit wound from a hunting rifle. I guessed it is better than nothing.

If you are going to pack trauma care stuff know how to use it. Also keep it accessible. By that I mean somewhere it can be reached fast and ideally deployed one handed. If you are solo there is a strong to fairly strong chance you will have a booboo on one or the other hand and if you have you kit packed away so tight you can’t get it or use it with one hand and your teeth it won’t help you and you will die of blood loss with a really nagging sense of irony.