Official Montana 2023 Draw Thread!

[Praxeus]

Looks like were in....


I believe that outfitters have to turn in surplus or unspoken for tags and that constitutes a tag "turned in". Regardless....were in and that's what matters!

 

[Dos Perros]

The only thing I can think of is that the permit was initially allocated for your outright draw of the general combo. Then, since your friend had enough points, he drew a combo turned in. However, all of the permit allocations were already completed for the unit that you drew in. Every year, something happens that makes me question wtf happened.


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I think I understand the process, like the draw order, and it is as you have described. But, I figured they’d just allocated him a permit. I know Wyoming will over allocate to accommodate parties.

 

[Wapiti406]

But not a good chance. Been putting in there since the first year- mid 80's so close to 40 years so far. 10,000 applicants for a total of 135 tags. 13 (10%) go to NR, they give 30+ to land owner preference in that unit, leaves about 92 or so tags for residents.

Not exactly.. This is a misconception, and honestly, one that I used to preach.

Theres only 100 tags given in 380. Nonresidents can draw up to 10% of the permits. Nonresident tags are not guaranteed. Im not sure on the allocation for landowner tags. Last year in 380 there were 12 landowner tags given, 1 nonresident landowner, and 1 nonresident tag. So 86% of the 380 tags went to residents.

The reason people have a hard time drawing isnt because of nonresidents and landowners. Its because theres close to 10000 people applying for 100 tags. Its likely the most overrated tag in the country.

 

[mountainman406]

I think I understand the process, like the draw order, and it is as you have described. But, I figured they’d just allocated him a permit. I know Wyoming will over allocate to accommodate parties.

Yeah I’m really not sure how that works and I’m far from an expert. To me, a party is a party and there’s no point in a party application to pool points if someone is left out. I’d call FWP and plead your case, they might be willing to bend a bit. Let us know how it works out if you do call.


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[Raghornkiller]

I'll be calling them too and I won't be very happy,I just can't see what the point of a group application is if one person gets a tag and the other doesnt.It also happened to someone else I know.

 

[mikeafeagin22]

So anybody have a good guess when NM will post draw results? Haha

 

[Raghornkiller]

Hopefully I'll get a day to recover from this first before I get disappointed again.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

So anybody have a good guess when NM will post draw results? Haha

Likely Wednesday but they postponed the deadline a day so?

 

[Hubbs2020]

I'll be calling them too and I won't be very happy,I just can't see what the point of a group application is if one person gets a tag and the other doesnt.It also happened to someone else I know.

Keep us posted. We had same issue, party app and person with 2 pts drew returned tag and 1 pt didn't draw.

 

[mikeafeagin22]

Hopefully I'll get a day to recover from this first before I get disappointed again.

I dunno.. I’m looking for the bandaid treatment I think. Just kick me while I’m down!

 

[bmart2622]

Me.

Ima cheap bastard I guess.

Not at all, I didn't either

 

[tmiedema5]

Newbie here. Applied for NR elk combo. Does this mean I have no shot anymore or could it still come up successful?

 

[Stevenjander]

There might be an issue again this year. We put in as a party and got a Big Game Combo (Released) (party #***). The definition in the results say if the party number is in parenthesis then everybody in party drew. Well I my results say unsuccessful. I called and talked to an awesome young lady and she reviewed our application and said it looks like an error has occurred. She said they have seen this a couple of times today. She is going to follow-up with me tomorrow. She said as far as she can see I should have got a tag. She was super nice. Hats off to the customer service

 

[mountainman406]

Newbie here. Applied for NR elk combo. Does this mean I have no shot anymore or could it still come up successful?

Sorry to tell you but that’s going to stay unsuccessful.


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[6.5x284]

So anybody have a good guess when NM will post draw results? Haha

This Wednesday or next Wednesday.


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[Roughwater]

I thought. early in the day I was unsuccessful but it appears I was successful after all and a 2nd member of my party was as well but out 3rd member who had only one point was not.

This is what my final message said below and our 2nd member of our party who also had 2 points like me got the same notification. I was surprised they broke up our group but I'm OK with it for sure.

Successful Drawing Results:
2023 GENERAL ELK COMBO (RELEASED)
Unsuccessful Drawing Results:
2023 GENERAL - ELK COMBO (Party #8546)

 

[Roughwater]

Plan on it next year! Hunt otc this year! Hone your skills!!!!

It looks like 2 out of the 3 in our party drew after all.

Here was my final results:

Successful Drawing Results:
2023 GENERAL ELK COMBO (RELEASED)
Unsuccessful Drawing Results:
2023 GENERAL - ELK COMBO (Party #8546)

 

[Stevenjander]

Thats what happened to us. The 2 guys with 2 points got tags but the guy (me) with 1 point didnt get it. According to the explanation that came with the results if the party number is in parentheses everybody in the party drew. Thats why I called FWP and had our app reviewed. Her words were looks like we owe you antag

 

[tmiedema5]

Sorry to tell you but that’s going to stay unsuccessful.


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Do I still have a chance of getting a "released" tag do you know?

 

[mountainman406]

Do I still have a chance of getting a "released" tag do you know?

I believe they have concluded the drawings for released tags. How many points do you have?


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