Off season for the dogs

[Jason Snyder]

Not totally familiar with the German scoring but I am aware 10’s and 11’s are the goal.


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A 199 is the maximum score, and is exceedingly rare. Out of 3-400 dogs entered in this test each year it might happen once a decade.

The offseason officially ends Thursday morning.

 

[IanCOLO]

A 199 is the maximum score, and is exceedingly rare. Out of 3-400 dogs entered in this test each year it might happen once a decade.

The offseason officially ends Thursday morning.

Great job and enjoy what the training brings to the hunting season.


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[GreenNDark Timber]

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She showed out! Congrats to both of you on an awesome score. All that hard work paid off!

 

[Jason Snyder]

She showed out! Congrats to both of you on an awesome score. All that hard work paid off!

Thank you. Can’t wait to run her VGP next year, but for right now I’m happy to be done training and just hunt for five months.

 

[Jesse Jaymes]

^^^ beyond impressive. Congrats. Has to feel great to put in the effort...and get what you earned! Lotta 11's there.

 

[TSAMP]

Got out in slightly more hospitable habitat today, a mowed sunflower field. Big dog locked in a rooster and little dog ran in and ruined it.

The cover is thick and I am sure he wouldn't see the other on point. I think I need to put him on lead and come from behind the other dog, but on a wild rooster that's awfully optimistic from a timing perspective.

 

[Jason Snyder]

The cover is thick and I am sure he wouldn't see the other on point. I think I need to put him on lead and come from behind the other dog, but on a wild rooster that's awfully optimistic from a timing perspective.

It’s early in the season. I’d give him a few more opportunities to figure it out on his own before I did the check cord.

 

[IanCOLO]

I’d save the check cord for training sessions. The only thing that is mandatory for me right now with hunting our puppy is that he will come when called. Outside of that I’m letting him figure things out on his own. If he points a bird for even a little bit for me I’ll probably shoot it as long as he’s not too close when it flushes.


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[Jason Snyder]

I’ll revisit this thread in February.

 

[Cant hit em]

Almost go time


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[*zap*]

Just chillin.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Little brown dog won some hardware…

 

[johnnycake]

I’ll revisit this thread in February.

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I'll still be chasing wild birds until May

 

[Jason Snyder]

Time to resurrect this thread.

I did some blind retrieve work this weekend.

I also bought this.

 

[Don Fischer]

Nice looking gun! I recently, year or so ago, got me a new 28ga SxS. CZ Bobwhite. Been doing to much snow last few days and to cold to do anything outside with the dogs. But, did make arrangement's to take my Abby to Colorado in July to get her bred! At Fire Fly Farm and Kennel in Brighton, Colo. Be old home week as I lived in Brighton for several years in the late 70's. This is the dog getting bred, Abby:

 

[sndmn11]

Time to resurrect this thread.


I also bought this.

Nice looking gun! I recently, year or so ago, got me a new 28ga SxS. CZ Bobwhite.

Funny, I'm going to grab an Orion SxS and probably review it here.

The dog started training last weekend focused on backing. She's got another week or so left of being in heat, and then we can start conditioning since her growth plates are closed.




@Don Fischer do setters do well in hot conditions?

 

[Don Fischer]

I think the only reason I act on threads about dogs is I like dogs so much, and of course SxS shotguns! Here's Snicker Doodle, Abby's half brother! I should probably apologies for sticking photo's of my dog's in here but ain't gonna do it!

Snicker!

 

[AK_Skeeter]

When it is too icy to safely train retrievers outside, I run wagon wheel drills inside.
These drills help in blinds and multiple marks for field events (hunt test/field trial)
All it takes is a few bumpers and a small room.
When they get good at it the bumpers are spaced inches apart from each other.
I run 3 versions of wagon wheel, as half-wagon wheel with bumpers from 9oclock to 3 oclock.

Version 1 which focuses on multiple marking mechanics.
Here the goal is perfect spinal alignment to the next target after returning.
For example, start with bumpers widely spaced at9oclock, noon, 3 oclock.
Pick up the bumper at noon, when pup returns, get a perfect sit at heel with
spinal alignment at 3oclock bumper.
The goal is for pup to learn the automatically have perfect spinal alignment
aimed in the direction the handlers feet are pointed to.
There should be no movement after the dog sits.
This helps in multiple marks where the "first look" on memory marks is important.

Version 2 which focuses on the handler correctly reading the dog's line.
In this version bumpers are placed either in 2-tiers or inches away from each other.
The handler must correctly read which bumper the retriever is focused on with each send.
This helps the handler understand where the dog is looking in terms of destination in field events.
A more advanced version is the handler silently push/pull the dog's destination with subtle silent handler movement. There should be no movement after the dog sits other than slight head movement.
This helps in blinds and multiple marks, where a good handler knows exactly where the dog is lining to.

Version 3 is conventional wagon wheel where the handler sends the dog, tosses a bumper
back to its origin after the retrieve, then pivots the dog to the next bumper destination.
I don't like this version because the dog moves (pivots upon returning), but it has value
as an introduction to poison bird as the dog learns to ignore the tossed bumper.

Another version inside is a casting wagon wheel, teaching left and right straight no-hands back and left and right 10-degree angle backs.

 

[CMP70306]

I think the only reason I act on threads about dogs is I like dogs so much, and of course SxS shotguns! Here's Snicker Doodle, Abby's half brother! I should probably apologies for sticking photo's of my dog's in here but ain't gonna do it!

Snicker!

How do you like the Irish Setters? I have a field bred golden now but have been debating a pointing dog in the future. the field bred Irish setters look a lot like my Cedar just not sure how their temperament compares to the Goldens.

 

[Don Fischer]

I've got three of them and love'em. Most of us that have them call them Red Setter's but they are registered as Irish Setter's. The ones called Irish ?field setter's are Reds that have been cross registered to AKC. None of them would interest me. To afraid AKC people will get them and start crossing them into what they already have. Might work and might not. My Snicker is up above. This is his half sister Abby.

How do you like the Irish Setters? I have a field bred golden now but have been debating a pointing dog in the future. the field bred Irish setters look a lot like my Cedar just not sure how their temperament compares to the Goldens.

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like dogs, period. But I recommend looking at gun dogs or shooting dogs. field trials differ from hunting enough to make all age dogs a bad choice for me. I've judged AKC AF twice and Shoot to Retrieve. I never judge all age dogs. In AKC all age dogs either got lost or placed, to much run. Never judged All Age in AF but watching Shooting Dogs suspect its even worse. AF E. Setter's I had, had so much run it was not possible to foot hunt them but beautiful dogs in the training field. AF dogs in Shoot to Retrieve normally got lost. They are bred to run it seems to me over anything else. Seems AKC Gun Dogs that win most run fairly big, about like AF foot shooting dogs, but under much better control. Remember an AKC shorthair always ran All Age. The handler either lost the dog or beat you. If you think you might like E Setter's go watch the Shoot to Retrieve dog's to select one. simply rule out the huge runners. I've had several E Pointer's and though they look good in training I would never own another, simply to much run. Bred to compete in field trials. Something in all trials you might notice is dog's that relocate on their own keeping good location on the bird get turned down by judges. If I remember right it's in the rules that way. Those that might move from cover to mark a fall also get the boot normally. For simply a hunting dog with style I'd strongly recommend a German Shorthair, Red Setter, Britanny, German Wirehair and Visula. My top picks would be Shorthair, Red Setter, German Wire Hair and Britanny.