Non-toxic pheasant whacking experience

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Steel sux.
Going straight Bismuth this year for waterfowl.
If I ever get after pheasant thats what I'll use.
(If I cant use lead).
 
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@KurtR @Spoonbill @PredatoronthePrairie you guys are using the 100% steel?
I use these in #4 in the 20 GA and #3 in the 12 GA. Shot a few whitetails in the head with the 12 GA when we jump them close range in the river bottoms.

Jay

 
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200 rounds for $279 plus a high probability of Rebate.

I hate to post the Ad before I snag my ammo...but...during my heyday as a Waterfowler (pre Covid) I was a fan of buying cases of Steel each season. I did walk into a decent Boss buy in 3" 3/5 blend a few years ago.

After getting sideways with a Federal Trout Trooper on a Federal refuge it's not worth the headache for upland w lead vs getting close to the water and needing non tox. I'd prefer to just run 100% non tox today.

Am I missing something with this Kent deal? I could slum #5 in a 2 3/4" for this price. I realize it's only 1oz, but I am a 12g guy with no Bougie Bores.
 
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200 rounds for $279 plus a high probability of Rebate.

I hate to post the Ad before I snag my ammo...but...during my heyday as a Waterfowler (pre Covid) I was a fan of buying cases of Steel each season. I did walk into a decent Boss buy in 3" 3/5 blend a few years ago.

After getting sideways with a Federal Trout Trooper on a Federal refuge it's not worth the headache for upland w lead vs getting close to the water and needing non tox. I'd prefer to just run 100% non tox today.

Am I missing something with this Kent deal? I could slum #5 in a 2 3/4" for this price. I realize it's only 1oz, but I am a 12g guy with no Bougie Bores.
I ordered some, thanks for the heads up... almost can't buy lead for that after the rebate!
 
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You assuming you're qualified for the $100? That's how I read it. And as you said...that's like too good to be true???
It looks like the rebate is $5 per box up to 20 boxes... I only purchased a case, so should be in line for $40 rebate. I started the process but need a UPC image from the product and that will have to wait until Rogers ships. I also got a $15 code for first purchase and free shipping.

edit: My math sucked earlier... I think it will only be a $40 rebate on a case.
 
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You tipped me over the edge, and I snagged a case as well. It's just money. And it's probably better overall. Wonder how many scavengers ingest lead on unrecovered cripples and the effects.
 
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I have learned some upland public land requires non-toxic shot, the main bird is wild pheasants.

My brown dog will be a year in Nov and the priority is to get her quality contact and retrieves. I don't have any desire to shoot a bird she doesn't flush, I also don't expect a wild rooster to let her get a few yards away.

Because the goal is setting her up for success, I am a-ok spending for "best" over value. I have some federal Bismuth #4 in my cart, but was hoping to get experiences and opinions before buying. Federal, Kent, Hevi are preferred. I see all bismuth, small steel, all tungsten, blends of steel/tungsten, and blends of steel/bismuth.

I shoot 20ga, and just want to kill what I hit. I have a range of chokes from Carlson and Jeb.

I read:

These pheasants were taken with #6 Hevi-Bismuth
 

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I hunt upland in mostly nontoxic areas. I have shot pheasants with #4, and #6 bismuth and #2-#6 steel. On a true crossing shot inside 25 yards any of the above are adequate. On a straight away shot or further out shot which you will probably have with a flushing dog you want larger shot.

In my 20 gauge I shoot 1.125 oz of #4 bismuth when targeting pheasants.
 
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