New Utah Weapon restriction hunts

There are people that hunt these general units annually and now have to buy a new gun. Some even 2-3 guns, depending on how many kids they have. @CorbLand you make a very valid point. We need hunters, and we dont want to lose them. I do however believe that game management agencies needs tools in order to ease the burden on them in situations like this. Maybe that is the key as to why the Wasatch works with archery only; because it doesnt have rolling changes.
 
400 yards is a long poke with a peep sight, my eyes just don’t do well that far out, but 300 would be doable. I like how the old Redfield peep has room to engrave yardage next to the MOA scale. It would be easy enough to dial with one of these.
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There are people that hunt these general units annually and now have to buy a new gun. Some even 2-3 guns, depending on how many kids they have. @CorbLand you make a very valid point. We need hunters, and we dont want to lose them. I do however believe that game management agencies needs tools in order to ease the burden on them in situations like this. Maybe that is the key as to why the Wasatch works with archery only; because it doesnt have rolling changes.
That seems like a stretch. It's 3 units out of, what, 30 general units, and 1 LE unit. It seems like a good number to try this out on. If a person already hunts with a muzzy, it's not hard to switch from optics to irons.

I do agree it could be good management tool, especially if left for more than a year or two, to see how it affects things. But it probably needs to go 5 or so years to really see?

And the Wasatch definitely isn't what it used to be. Just like the rest of the state unfortunately.
 
That seems like a stretch. It's 3 units out of, what, 30 general units, and 1 LE unit. It seems like a good number to try this out on. If a person already hunts with a muzzy, it's not hard to switch from optics to irons.

I do agree it could be good management tool, especially if left for more than a year or two, to see how it affects things. But it probably needs to go 5 or so years to really see?

And the Wasatch definitely isn't what it used to be. Just like the rest of the state unfortunately.
It’s more than converting from a scope to irons for guys. You can’t use 209 ignition anymore either. It’s the rifle hunters that have the biggest financial burden and that is the bulk of the hunters.
 
It’s more than converting from a scope to irons for guys. You can’t use 209 ignition anymore either. It’s the rifle hunters that have the biggest financial burden and that is the bulk of the hunters.
Gotcha, I didn't catch the percussion cap/ flint part.

But here's something; how many lever guns are kicking around in grandpa's closet that could be borrowed.

Honestly with you, speaking specifically on Beaver West, it will only help that unit. We've seen out there have dwindled a lot, especially the past 10 years.
 
Gotcha, I didn't catch the percussion cap/ flint part.

But here's something; how many lever guns are kicking around in grandpa's closet that could be borrowed.

Honestly with you, speaking specifically on Beaver West, it will only help that unit. We've seen out there have dwindled a lot, especially the past 10 years.
It’s only going to help all the units. There is little to no doubt about that.

Personally, I like the idea. Few concerns with whether or not we will get the opportunity that has been “promised” but overall, supportive of it. I just also try to think of the other people that are going to lose due to this.

I live in one of the units. A guy I work with has been trying to get his daughter a tag since she turned 10. This year she should have had enough points to get a tag, so for her birthday, before any of this came about, he bought her a gun, scope, everything. Been taking her out shooting, she was excited to finally get to go deer hunting. Well, he is going to have to find her a different unit and he has only hunted this unit. I feel for that guy and his daughter. He isn’t wealthy by any means, so turning around and dropping more money on a new gun is a burden.
 
What modern guns are even made out there that even have iron sights anymore? Not counting big bores and dangerous game guns, or things like lever guns or reproductions.

Does anyone even make a modern 223 or 6mm with iron sights?

Using an AR with irons would have been fine, but it looks like they banned semi-autos for that hunt.
 
It’s only going to help all the units. There is little to no doubt about that.

Personally, I like the idea. Few concerns with whether or not we will get the opportunity that has been “promised” but overall, supportive of it. I just also try to think of the other people that are going to lose due to this.

I live in one of the units. A guy I work with has been trying to get his daughter a tag since she turned 10. This year she should have had enough points to get a tag, so for her birthday, before any of this came about, he bought her a gun, scope, everything. Been taking her out shooting, she was excited to finally get to go deer hunting. Well, he is going to have to find her a different unit and he has only hunted this unit. I feel for that guy and his daughter. He isn’t wealthy by any means, so turning around and dropping more money on a new gun is a burden.
You can't hunt until your 12 in Utah. Yes it sucks when your favorite unit changes, I had to shift units a couple times to try and keep my kids hunting.

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