Montana Rifle Co, Shoot2Hunt, and Rokslide Rifle

[fwafwow]

I can answer these. No, they will be proofed with common factory ammo.







MRC is not a custom shop, and that’s not realistic anyways. This is a factory, off the shelf rifle; the point isn’t that each person gets to get every wish they want- it’s to show that the rifle is built and assembled correctly, and that without fuss it shoots correctly. What you are asking for is a true custom from a smith that offers that if you want- and you will pay heavily for it.

So - how about that poll?!

 

[RockAndSage]

Yessir! We'll have some at Western Hunt Expo in Salt Lake in February. Hopefully by then it will actually be in production. I've also got a few .375 H&H to get done and ready for Dallas Safari Club Atlanta and SCI Nashville.

I'd be extremely interested to see the recoil dynamics of dangerous game cartridges and the Rokstock's geometry. Prediction: extremely effective.

I've wondered about this quite a bit before, actually. Here's why:

About 15 years ago I worked with a gun-fitter whose clients included national and international trap and skeet champions, but he made his bread and butter with fitting random club guys around the region. The first thing he always did was re-cut the butt to be perfectly 90-degree perpendicular to the bore.

I got him to explain in detail the reasons he adjusted the geometry the way he did with that particular cut, and it was all about recoil management. Butts that undercut, with the toe further forward than the heel, increase muzzle flip in direct proportion to the increased angle. It's also largely what is responsible for cheek bruising. The perfectly perpendicular bore/butt angle ended up being best for recoil managment and follow-up shots.

Fast-forward to a few years ago, and I came across someone's writing about really early theories of stock design on big-bore dangerous game guns, from the 19th century - and why they often have both severe undercuts on the butt, and the combs dropping so much below the bore axis. It seems the idea was that it was to "manage" the muzzle flip to intentionally make it go up - rather than straight back.

Given that the Rokstock has what appears to be a butt cut at perfectly 90-degrees to the bore axis, and that its heel is as high as it is above the bore line, I'll wager that it will be exceptional at helping manage muzzle flip with heavy big-bore cartridges.

Please let us know what you experience with that .375 H&H from standing position.

 

[Tom-D]

Ryan who historically dislikes CRF stated “well, those problems at the class- wouldn’t and didn’t happen to that rifle”.

Are you able to highlight what problems happened and with what rifles?

Also i wanted to ask is there anything with this rifle/action that makes it better than or not as good as an actual pre-64 model 70? Other than the stock ofcourse.
I know they shouldnt be in direct comparison as only one will be commercially available but im just curious

 

[Dobermann]

Generally a Doberman.

 

[Dobermann]

Tell you what, I certainly did not have Form being a girl on my 2024 bingo card.

Why did you *think* she used a voice modifier? Surely it wasn't all that hooky stuff about "who I am doesn't matter - facts and data matter" ...

 

[Imac45acp]

Ian, this is excellent. Thank you, sir.

1) So the 2022 retains the C-ring or collar? And it looks like the bolt shroud still acts as a baffle?

I'll wait for your reply to 2) before I ask any more questions.

Thanks,

Jason

1) Yes, sort of on the collar. The interior barrel collar is abbreviated by both bolt raceways as opposed to just the extractor side lug. The first step of our receiver machining is punching a hole through Ø2" bar and broaching the bolt bore/raceways clear through. This gives us datums to index and fixture on for all remaining machining process. The shroud and bolt stop act in conjunction to block any gasses from injuring the shooter in the event of a catastrophic case failure.

Wow. This is incredibly detailed, and well written. (That doesn't mean that I understand everything you have written above, as perhaps evidenced by my following question.)

The bold text sounds like you will use a handload. If correct, would you consider a factory load?

• Maybe there's a poll and RS votes for the dedicated factory load per caliber. (BH 77 TMK, 147 eld-m, whatever.)
• Purchasers could also - if you are willing - send you the factory ammo (ideally directly from an ammo company).
• These need not be mutually exclusive options, and if it causes additional time on your part, add an optional fee.

Thanks for the additional information.

As Form mentioned, we'll be using factory ammo, or UM's off the shelf loads. We all know you can take a rifle that's accurate with factory fodder and tune a load to get even better accuracy. Our goal is to prove out base line accuracy so you know what you're starting with.

We not really a custom shop, more a precision manufacturer. Some day, the MRC division will grow to the point that we can do custom work. For now, we have to keep the offerings limited.

 

[Wapiti1]

Yessir! We'll have some at Western Hunt Expo in Salt Lake in February. Hopefully by then it will actually be in production. I've also got a few .375 H&H to get done and ready for Dallas Safari Club Atlanta and SCI Nashville.

Cool. I'll be in Nashville and will make it a point to stop by. Nice to see MRC back.

Jeremy

 

[XR357]

Will it be possible to buy additional MRC prefit barrels in the same calibers and 18” length? It would be nice to snag an extra barrel or two or maybe an additional caliber.

 

[zdc1775]

Yessir! We'll have some at Western Hunt Expo in Salt Lake in February. Hopefully by then it will actually be in production. I've also got a few .375 H&H to get done and ready for Dallas Safari Club Atlanta and SCI Nashville.

I've never been to an SCI event before but since I have been looking for a nice 375 H&H rifle for several years and I have a good friend who lives just a couple blocks away from the event center, I will have to make a trip to see this one.

Maybe I'll like the rifle enough to order a couple more in different calibers to replace some of my other rifles.

I do have one question though, why did you decide to do a two piece integrated picatinny instead of a full length one? Maybe it's just me but the full length version would seem to allow for a better selection of modern optics given that many of them are quite a bit shorter than older ones, or maybe I'm overthinking that.

 

[RockAndSage]

I've never been to an SCI event before but since I have been looking for a nice 375 H&H rifle for several years and I have a good friend who lives just a couple blocks away from the event center, I will have to make a trip to see this one.

Maybe I'll like the rifle enough to order a couple more in different calibers to replace some of my other rifles.

I do have one question though, why did you decide to do a two piece integrated picatinny instead of a full length one? Maybe it's just me but the full length version would seem to allow for a better selection of modern optics given that many of them are quite a bit shorter than older ones, or maybe I'm overthinking that.

Hearing the thinking behind a design decision is some of the more interesting stuff for me as well - good design has a hell of a lot more thinking and reasoning than is obvious, especially when the thing looks simple.

 

[Formidilosus]

341 yards, 95gr TMK-

 

[Brontosaurus]

Super enlightening to see your reticle movement! It’s hard for me to know what’s acceptable movement for a field rifle when the only videos out there are 20 LB PRS chassis rifles. What mag was the scope at?

 

[RockAndSage]

Super enlightening to see your reticle movement! It’s hard for me to know what’s acceptable movement for a field rifle when the only videos out there are 20 LB PRS chassis rifles. What mag was the scope at?

Would also like to know what you were rested on - tripod, backpack?

 

[Formidilosus]

Super enlightening to see your reticle movement! It’s hard for me to know what’s acceptable movement for a field rifle when the only videos out there are 20 LB PRS chassis rifles. What mag was the scope at?

Would also like to know what you were rested on - tripod, backpack?

Approx. 15x or just under- the Triggercam makes me use more magnification than usual.


Position was a jacked up half sitting/half leaning on a bolder, unable to get straight behind the rifle. Front rest was the pack, no rear rest.




Approximately a left 1.5 mil shift during recoil.

 

[solarshooter]

Nice shooting. Sounds windy, but you didn't appear to have any wind hold. Can you speak to that?

 

[Formidilosus]

Nice shooting. Sounds windy, but you didn't appear to have any wind hold. Can you speak to that?

A full value, right to left 8-12mph gusting wind at the rifle; and about half way to the coyote a full value left to right 8+ mph wind. They canceled each other out.

 

[mtnbound]

Approx. 15x or just under- the Triggercam makes me use more magnification than usual.


Position was a jacked up half sitting/half leaning on a bolder, unable to get straight behind the rifle. Front rest was the pack, no rear rest.

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Approximately a left 1.5 mil shift during recoil.
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Love that reticle but hate how much it costs.

 

[Wyo_hntr]

Love that reticle but hate how much it costs.

Preach!

 

[Formidilosus]

Love that reticle but hate how much it costs.

It’s fantastic. And maybe in the not too distant future there is a variation of it in a less expensive scope….

 

[mtnbound]

It’s fantastic. And maybe in the not too distant future there is a variation of it in a less expensive scope….

That's what I'm hoping for, along with several other folks, I suspect.