Montana Rifle Co, Shoot2Hunt, and Rokslide Rifle

[mxgsfmdpx]

What's your cartridge and use case? (Might help @Wyo_hntr with scenario / build planning ...)

I don’t use it anywhere near enough. Too many guns.

6.5 Creedmoor.

 

[fwafwow]

He should join the club haha. Mine is on Sako and it’s one of my favorite all time scopes.

Tell me that it won’t work on an S20 in 6.5 CM.

 

[PNWGATOR]

As of right now, we're not planning on doing a .375 RokStok gun. These will have traditional sporter style stocks... for now.

Why?

Please explain the advantages of the “traditional sporter style stock”.

 

[The Guide]

Why?

Please explain the advantages of the “traditional sporter style stock”.

I don't think it is a matter of advantage of a traditional stock as much as the typical dangerous game 375 buyer isn't going to be as open minded about a "silly looking stock" as someone looking for an excellent firearm for positional hunting and shooting. I'm sure a RokStok will be an upgrade option available but not standard build at first.

But, I'm divorced so I've been wrong before.

Jay

 

[Formidilosus]

Why?

Please explain the advantages of the “traditional sporter style stock”.

Iron sights.

 

[Castle Rock]

Why?

Please explain the advantages of the “traditional sporter style stock”.

Some of us will tolerate a rokstok on a utility gun, but a classically designed rifle is a thing of beauty and deserves to look like such and iron sights are a must even though they will never be used

 

[Dobermann]

Tell me that it won’t work on an S20 in 6.5 CM.

I'd say that's a perfect match - as Form said, for medium to long shots.

The RS 1.2's reticle takes some design cues from the THLR reticle, but doesn't do them as well. It's lighter, more compact, and better for long hikes and offhand shooting. But the ZP5 is a thing of beauty.

In addition to the videos I posted in one of Form's threads on the ZP5 (to try to create something of a 'ZP5 information clearinghouse', there are a couple of good posts by Glassaholic on the Hide forum. Just ignore the review by BigJimFish, as he seemed to not understand the reticle.

 

[wysongdog]

Yessir! We'll have some at Western Hunt Expo in Salt Lake in February. Hopefully by then it will actually be in production. I've also got a few .375 H&H to get done and ready for Dallas Safari Club Atlanta and SCI Nashville.

Got one of those 375’s for me?

 

[rifletuner]

Why?

Please explain the advantages of the “traditional sporter style stock”.

For a manufacturer, the biggest advantage of a "traditional sporter style stock" are that the target market for a 375H&H will buy the rifle. For the forseeable future, I think the market for 375H&H in a Rokstok is pretty limited.

Note - I am not saying the Rokstok or similar stock is bad or wont work with a 375H&H. But the people who primarily buy 375s wont buy one with a Rockstok. The people buying 375s are largely the same people complaining that Ryan wasnt dressed properly when he shot his giraffe. Its just too big of a jump for many of them. The Montana Rifles guys were specifically talking about having their 375H&H at the big African hunting expos, so its a step too far to take only a Rokstok configured rifle.

Unless their mission is to evangelise rather than sell rifles. Maybe they could have Form wander the aisles at the show, randomly asking people "do you have a moment to hear the good news of the Rokstoks witnesses?"

 

[huntnful]

For a manufacturer, the biggest advantage of a "traditional sporter style stock" are that the target market for a 375H&H will buy the rifle. For the forseeable future, I think the market for 375H&H in a Rokstok is pretty limited.

Note - I am not saying the Rokstok or similar stock is bad or wont work with a 375H&H. But the people who primarily buy 375s wont buy one with a Rockstok. The people buying 375s are largely the same people complaining that Ryan wasnt dressed properly when he shot his giraffe. Its just too big of a jump for many of them. The Montana Rifles guys were specifically talking about having their 375H&H at the big African hunting expos, so its a step too far to take only a Rokstok configured rifle.

Unless their mission is to evangelise rather than sell rifles. Maybe they could have Form wander the aisles at the show, randomly asking people "do you have a moment to hear the good news of the Rokstoks witnesses?"

Very well said. Great perspective.

 

[Reburn]

I am not saying the Rokstok or similar stock is bad or wont work with a 375H&H.

As I understand it.
Rokstock wont work with iron sights. So if you have a gun with only iron sights or want to use iron sights as backup if you take your scope off the rockstock wont work. Its not what the rokstock was designed for.

 

[zdc1775]

We opted for the two piece pic rail because our rifles are primarily top loaders. When we machined the one piece protos, it was a pain in the a$$ to load. Side story- you wouldn't believe the amount of hate we got putting the pic rail on a 'classic rifle'. One critic referred to it as "an aesthetically disgusting cheese grater. Internally we started referring to it as the ADCG rail, and all got a laugh out of it. We'll be doing a classic style slick top for the classic guys, and anybody that just has to have a 20MOA rail.

That makes perfect sense, I had just forgotten that a hinged floor plate was the standard vs the AICS bottom metal on Form's test rifle and this new RokRifle(?).

 

[Imac45acp]

Why?

Please explain the advantages of the “traditional sporter style stock”.

As others have mentioned. There's no advantage to the sporter stock vs RokStok. They're just different tools for different jobs.

As a side note- Remember the flak I mentioned when the traditionalist saw the pic rail? Can you imagine the hate if I showed up to DSC or SCI with a RokStoked .375? Are you guys trying to get my lynched?

 

[Grumman]

As others have mentioned. There's no advantage to the sporter stock vs RokStok. They're just different tools for different jobs.

As a side note- Remember the flak I mentioned when the traditionalist saw the pic rail? Can you imagine the hate if I showed up to DSC or SCI with a RokStoked .375? Are you guys trying to get my lynched?

Just bring one in 6MM and call it the giraffe killer. You would have the most talked about booth at the show.

In all seriousness I hope you will have a Rokstok version at Nashville.


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[atmat]

@Imac45acp — any consideration into a discounted rebarrel program like Seekins offers? I think they charge a flat $450 $550 to replace the barrel if you shoot yours out.

Edited to correct price based on comment below.

 

[rileybassman]

@Imac45acp — any consideration into a discounted rebarrel program like Seekins offers? I think they charge a flat $450 to replace the barrel if you shoot yours out.

$550 - but yeah, they have a great program!

 

[atmat]

$550 - but yeah, they have a great program!

Edited my comment to reflect accurate price.

 

[Imac45acp]

@Imac45acp — any consideration into a discounted rebarrel program like Seekins offers? I think they charge a flat $450 $550 to replace the barrel if you shoot yours out.

Edited to correct price based on comment below.

That one's above my pay grade, but I'll run it up the chain. I'll pose the question of purchasing extra barrels as well while I'm at it. Seekins' price seems fair (even at $550)

 

[RockAndSage]

That one's above my pay grade, but I'll run it up the chain. I'll pose the question of purchasing extra barrels as well while I'm at it. Seekins' price seems fair (even at $550)

Extra barrels at the time of purchase would be a big hell-yes, if it brought per-unit price down a bit. Especially in getting a .22 Creedmoor, or 6 CM. Even more so if you could find a way to guarantee the barrels were consecutively chambered with the same reamer, right next to each other in line.

 

[atmat]

Another question: since these are being billed as “off the shelf” rifles. How will stock finish be handled? Will there just be a handful of available colors/patterns?