Montana Rifle Co, Shoot2Hunt, and Rokslide Rifle

[Formidilosus]

Nitrided CroMoly would make a nice coastal use gun, particularly if all screws and small parts were nitrided and the bolt body was left bare stainless. Probably hoping for too much there though.

I missed that, and it is one of the aspects. Actions and if possible barrels will be nitrided.

 

[DisplacedHusky]

Rokslide has cost me money and saved me money. Here we go again.

 

[Clarktar]

This WILL be my hunting rifle!

more accurately:

These WILL be my hunting rifles!

I'll buy your "old" ones.

 

[MT_Wyatt]

Count me in, this sounds "worth it."

 

[bnsafe]

well crap, now I gotta save

 

[nephewjephew]

6cm in a wood rokstock, yes please

 

[prm]

I don’t “need” a new rifle, but I really like the sound of this. My initial thought is 308. I need to go read the other thread.

Anticipated rifle weight?

 

[TX_Diver]

Will there be a preorder?

Definitely interested, but also curious on the value vs a tikka that’s cut/threaded and has a rokstok (say $1600ish). What kind of hunter would benefit from the extra cost vs just staying with a tikka?

 

[TxxAgg]

Tagged

 

[MT_Wyatt]

Will there be a preorder?

Definitely interested, but also curious on the value vs a tikka that’s cut/threaded and has a rokstok (say $1600ish). What kind of hunter would benefit from the extra cost vs just staying with a tikka?

Things:
- One thing off the bat would be the action itself - integral rail, CRF style,. So more in line with a lower end "custom" action of sorts.
- Add a custom bolt handle on there as well.
- Magazine setup and extra mag

A lot of that cost would come down to Labor:
- design/development/engineering to product.
- time and care in production - more focus on precision?
- bedding I would assume.
- Function testing/cycling/mags.
- Shooting/group testing like a gunsmith might provide.

That's just the stuff that comes to my mind when weighing doing a chopped tikka (currentl plan of mine) vs this route.

 

[Formidilosus]

I don’t “need” a new rifle, but I really like the sound of this. My initial thought is 308. I need to go read the other thread.

Anticipated rifle weight?

6.5lbs.

 

[Ajsomp]

I’m always interested when good companies put their names behind something and people who shoot actually endorse it. But if this is a way to get a wood rokstok and a decent action with everything ready to go out the gate, I’m in.

I’ve personally had “custom” guns that were really just assembled parts of my choosing. And weren’t any better shooters than my tikkas. As much as I get the itch to tinker, I just want shit that works day one.

 

[Gstew1930]

do we have a ballpark on prices yet?

Im fixing to build another 22 creed. This makes me want to hold off

 

[prm]

do we have a ballpark on prices yet?

Im fixing to build another 22 creed. This makes me want to hold off

See post #30

 

[6mm Remington]

Sure be nice to see 6mm Remington and 280AI included in the chamberings.

 

[Formidilosus]

Will there be a preorder?

Definitely interested, but also curious on the value vs a tikka that’s cut/threaded and has a rokstok (say $1600ish). What kind of hunter would benefit from the extra cost vs just staying with a tikka?

You can’t buy a Tikka like that, with the assembly, function, and precision proven.


Cost breakdown:

If you use factory barrel:
$850- Tikka T3 Lite stainless
$350- cut and thread barrel
$595- ROKstock
$70- extra mag (Ai)
$70- bolt and handle

Total= $1,935

If you use an AI or metal bottom metal and a pic rail, you are at about $2240. That’s a good deal for a very functional rifle. However, it will also generally take anywhere from 1-3 months to ship the parts, have a smith work on it and ship it back.



If you rebarrel it is-

$850- Tikka T3 Lite stainless
$800’ish- barrel, chambered, cut, thread
$595- ROKstock
$70- extra mag (AI)
$70- bolt and handle


Total= $2,385. If you add an AI or metal bottom metal, and a pic rail it’ll be $2,700 to $2,800. Still a very good rifle- as Tikka’s have always been. However, now you are looking at 4-8 months to get your rifle.



And- neither option did someone fully vet the rifle. To pay a gunsmith to degrease, thread lock, and torque (if they they even do it correctly); as well run 100 rounds through the two included mags, plus proof it with a 10 round sub 1.5 MOA group- you are looking at anywhere from $500 to $1,000 (real numbers that I have been quoted).

So to achieve the same package, you are sending guns and parts to a smith, waiting 4-8 months, and paying as much or more to do so.





But, let’s say between a Tikka setup identically and the MRC/S2H, it’s more about CRF versus PF on an individual preference level, as well as full warranty and factory support.

Do not get it confused- a properly setup T3 as above is the best currently available push-feed rifle on the market for general field shooting.
However, there are advantages to a properly done CRF. Number one is the elimination of “double feeds” due failure to eject from short stroking the bolt then pulling back and try to chamber another round. This happens a lot when people get stressed. A properly timed CRF captures the rim the moment it releases from the mag and will eject it if the bolt is pulled back. Even if due to the mags, the CRF doesn’t control the rim immediately, when the bolt is pushed forward the extractor snaps over the rim, and when the bolt is pulled back- it ejects. CRF is excellent for controlling the feeding, and ejecting of rounds.

Number two, is the open M70 style trigger. The closed Tikka/Sako trigger has very good reliability in very austere environments, especially with ice and snow. It is also a relatively safe trigger system when dropped. However, the old M70 trigger is also very reliable in ice, snow, sand, and debris; and it has a mechanical block on the firing pin with the 3-position safety making it virtually impossible to fire if dropped.

Number three is the integral Picatinny rail. The T3x has an integral rail, and it works, but Picatinny is the standard, is “better”, and integral rails are the way.




The conclusion is that while a correctly setup and optimized T3x is a very, very good rifle- and if you want a PF it’s the best option; you can’t walk into a store and buy it. Regardless, I would absolutely rather have this MRC/RS/UM/S2H rifle as it comes from the box- than any rifle built by any shop in the country, that I didn’t assemble and vet.

 

[nobody]

I just mindlessly drooled on my keyboard at work as I read through this, 2025 can’t come soon enough! Thanks for sharing the good word gents, and thanks to all involved!

 

[nobody]

Sure be nice to see 6mm Remington and 280AI included in the chamberings.

Genuine question, not trying to be a d!ck in asking, but why do we need either of those offerings? Form mentioned 6 creedmoor and 7 PRC in the list of available chamberings, which both do everything the 6 rem and 280 AI will do plus a ton more. They’re both objectively superior and have better market support, so what would a 6 REM and 280 AI add value wise?

 

[Formidilosus]

Things:
- One thing off the bat would be the action itself - integral rail, CRF style,. So more in line with a lower end "custom" action of sorts.

Just for conversation-

I’m not sure how it is “lower end custom action”. It is literally matched like, held to, and made like every good “custom” action. The MRC action takes prefits, is more reliable, has a way more reliable trigger system, and has less bolt bind than about any non European or Scandinavian action.

As a field action, I would positively choose the MRC over any “custom” action on the market currently.

 

[Formidilosus]

Sure be nice to see 6mm Remington and 280AI included in the chamberings.

If they actually sold, I’m sure they would. Unfortunately 6mm REM is functionally dead, and 280AI will be in the not too distant future.