McGuire Ballistics field and terminal reports

[SDHNTR]

This was a 28 Nosler and 168GR lot test from last year. Single feeds and magazine feeds from three different lots shot together. Target on the right is at 800 yards. The difference is internal and unmeasurable.

Ok, so this might help explain some of the difficulties you are experiencing. This is a site of enthusiasts that is not your average consumer. We are thinkers. People here do not take claims from bullet, gun, scope, whatever manufacturers simply at their word without a rational and empirically supported explanation. You can’t just say that something happens because it does and the difference is “internal and not measurable” and expect this crowd to buy it. Please explain. How exactly is that single feed bullet different than the mag feed and what makes them have the same poi?

I want to believe and in order to do that I must understand. Let’s try again. How can two different projectiles with two different construction methods impact the exact same? Something has to give. The shape/dimensions and/or BC has to change. Both of which would change poi, especially at range. Right? If not please tell me how and why I’m wrong. No snark intended. I love to learn.

 

[amassi]

Ooh nice
Coyote—->prairie dog, can we get a chipmunk next?
Maybe then a hummingbird


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[SMC_GUIDE]

Ok, so this might help explain some of the difficulties you are experiencing. This is a site of enthusiasts that is not your average consumer. We are thinkers. People here do not take claims from bullet, gun, scope, whatever manufacturers simply at their word without a rational and empirically supported explanation. You can’t just say that something happens because it does and the difference is “internal and not measurable” and expect this crowd to buy it. Please explain. How exactly is that single feed bullet different than the mag feed and what makes them have the same poi?

I want to believe and in order to do that I must understand. Let’s try again. How can two different projectiles with two different construction methods impact the exact same? Something has to give. The shape/dimensions and/or BC has to change. Both of which would change poi, especially at range. Right? If not please tell me how and why I’m wrong. No snark intended. I love to learn.

I totally understand, trust but verify. I will leave the POI question for someone else to answer. Hopefully a third party can verify.

 

[SMC_GUIDE]

Ooh nice
Coyote—->prairie dog, can we get a chipmunk next?
Maybe then a hummingbird


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Does that work better for you sir?
300 PRC
190 Proto
3100MV 22"barrel
200 Yards

 

[JFK]

Tough crowd.

I’ve got some on order and will be shooting them to 700 yards.

 

[atmat]

@fngTony - Is this thread even allowed? Seems like pure advertising from a non-Sponsor, particularly because the owner isn’t addressing questions.

 

[SMC_GUIDE]

@fngTony - Is this thread even allowed? Seems like pure advertising from a non-Sponsor, particularly because the owner isn’t addressing questions.

Some clarification on a few things would be fantastic. @fngTony

 

[fngTony]

Some clarification on a few things would be fantastic. @fngTony

I haven’t had time to read it entirely but in general there can’t be any advertising by non sponsors. I haven’t seen anything on those lines so far.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Ok, so this might help explain some of the difficulties you are experiencing. This is a site of enthusiasts that is not your average consumer. We are thinkers. People here do not take claims from bullet, gun, scope, whatever manufacturers simply at their word without a rational and empirically supported explanation. You can’t just say that something happens because it does and the difference is “internal and not measurable” and expect this crowd to buy it. Please explain. How exactly is that single feed bullet different than the mag feed and what makes them have the same poi?

I want to believe and in order to do that I must understand. Let’s try again. How can two different projectiles with two different construction methods impact the exact same? Something has to give. The shape/dimensions and/or BC has to change. Both of which would change poi, especially at range. Right? If not please tell me how and why I’m wrong. No snark intended. I love to learn.

What I have interpreted is the tips of the mag fed ones are a little thicker internally in areas, the outside form factor is exactly the same and the weight difference/balance of the slightly thicker walls of the bullet tip are generally miniscule in terms of affecting point of impact.

IE the outside of the egg is the same but one shell is just a lil bit thicker to handle a little more rougher handling. And/or one shell is thinner in areas to break easier, however you want to look at it.

@SMC_GUIDE does that sound accurate? No one is asking about explicitly how you manufacture these or anything but I think its transparent to clarify a little bit.