MAP - Public Lands for Sale in US Senate Bill

So if they sell 1 acre you’ll be restricted, if they sell 1% it’s highly unlikely you would even notice.

Something is going to change, federal lands will either be sold or developed for the benefit of the majority, like it or not. Now some lands won’t be touched for 100yrs+.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’ve gathered you don’t live in a western state.. what exactly do you think you, or any other American, actually stands to gain from this? We’ve already established it’s not going to even put a dent in the debt, so that’s off the table. We’re still buying this fairytale that it will actually be used for “affordable housing?”
 
So if they sell 1 acre you’ll be restricted, if they sell 1% it’s highly unlikely you would even notice.

Something is going to change, federal lands will either be sold or developed for the benefit of the majority, like it or not. Now some lands won’t be touched for 100yrs+.

You sound like the type that just throws in the towel when the going gets tough.

“Ehhh it’ll happen one day anyway so why care or fight”

I’m glad we didn’t act like that in 1776


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First they came for trapping, but I wasn't a trapper, so I didn't speak up. Next, they came for spring bear, but I don't bear hunt, so I didn't speak up. Next, they went for those who didn't want wolf reintroduction, but I think wolves are vital to the landscape, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for non-residents, but I am a resident, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for our public lands, and no one was left to speak up for me.
 
With ideas like that, its pretty evident you have never been here.

I’ve been, I didn’t enjoy it too much and it don’t cross my mind when hunting plans come around

There ain’t a whole lot of “wild” in Texas. Remove corn feeds and box stands and what’s left? East Texas where the hunting is mediocre at best


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I’ve been, I didn’t enjoy it too much and it don’t cross my mind when hunting plans come around

There ain’t a whole lot of “wild” in Texas. Remove corn feeds and box stands and what’s left? East Texas where the hunting is mediocre at best


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Texas talks a big game about muh freedoms but if you don’t actually own land, which is the vast, vast majority, it’s entirely pay to play. No thank you.
First they came for trapping, but I wasn't a trapper, so I didn't speak up. Next, they came for spring bear, but I don't bear hunt, so I didn't speak up. Next, they went for those who didn't want wolf reintroduction, but I think wolves are vital to the landscape, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for non-residents, but I am a resident, so I didn't speak up. Then they came for our public lands, and no one was left to speak up for me.
Once again conflating ability to hunt with access to public land, which anyone in the country has the same exact right to.

Say whatever you’d like, but there aren’t trucks with Colorado plates by the thousands parked at Texas trailheads every hunting season..
 
I’ve been, I didn’t enjoy it too much and it don’t cross my mind when hunting plans come around

There ain’t a whole lot of “wild” in Texas. Remove corn feeds and box stands and what’s left? East Texas where the hunting is mediocre at best


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So, if the pristine wilderness and game of the West are so expansive and grand, why has the fight over the last decade been to restrict access to non-residents?

These are the same non-residents who, in many cases, your states depend on for a large portion of their revenue and economic activity.

So, forgive us when we hand you some cheese with that wine when those non-resident population centers that are many times larger than your own, decide to come claim a title to which they do own, which are the resources of that public land.
 
Texas talks a big game about muh freedoms but if you don’t actually own land, which is the vast, vast majority, it’s entirely pay to play. No thank you.

Once again conflating ability to hunt with access to public land, which anyone in the country has the same exact right to.

Say whatever you’d like, but there aren’t trucks with Colorado plates by the thousands parked at Texas trailheads every hunting season..
I shoot 140-class bucks off my back porch on 10 acres and cull several others every year. And about the license plates, you are proving my point.
 
So, if the pristine wilderness and game of the West are so expansive and grand, why has the fight over the last decade been to restrict access to non-residents?

These are the same non-residents who, in many cases, your states depend on for a large portion of their revenue and economic activity.

So, forgive us when we hand you some cheese with that wine when those non-resident population centers that are many times larger than your own, decide to come claim a title to which they do own, which are the resources of that public land.

I’m a Louisiana boy, your not handing me any cheese

And yes, I still will stand for those lands even if there residents don’t like it when I show up

I’m not so selfish I can’t see the forest through the trees!! Long as the lands are there, I have a chance tides will turn in my favor

Once they’re gone and commercialized, I have no chance other than to hunt cattle somewhere


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I shoot 140-class bucks off my back porch on 10 acres and cull several others every year. And about the license plates, you are proving my point.

Hunting 10 acres, man that sounds fun.

If it works for you great and I’m glad for you. But not everyone wants to end up with that as their hunting recreation possibilities


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I shoot 140-class bucks off my back porch on 10 acres and cull several others every year. And about the license plates, you are proving my point.

LOL. Some of us want to hunt and experience the wilderness. Others just want to shoot shit off the back porch.

You’re not making the argument you think you are. Texans flood Colorado every fall, can’t hit a single trailhead without a Texas plate. They, and many other nonresidents, utilize all of the public land out west the same as residents do year round. It’s for everyone.
 
I’m a Louisiana boy, your not handing me any cheese

And yes, I still will stand for those lands even if there residents don’t like it when I show up

I’m not so selfish I can’t see the forest through the trees!! Long as the lands are there, I have a chance tides will turn in my favor

Once they’re gone and commercialized, I have no chance other than to hunt cattle somewhere


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Of course none of us are selfish....

 
LOL. Some of us want to hunt and experience the wilderness. Others just want to shoot shit off the back porch.

You’re not making the argument you think you are. Texans flood Colorado every fall, can’t hit a single trailhead without a Texas plate. They, and many other nonresidents, utilize all of the public land out west the same as residents do year round. It’s for everyone.
Yes, and the resources are for everyone as well... Look, I'm not pro selling the lands off; I'm saying you made the bed you're lying in, and without a change of heart, counting how many out-of-staters are on the mountain, and pointing fingers about how everyone else does it wrong, you're doomed to fail. Look internally, grasshopper.,
 
I shoot 140-class bucks off my back porch on 10 acres and cull several others every year. And about the license plates, you are proving my point.
Cool, sounds so rad…. Leave the public lands for those who use them. You’ll still have your porch bucks.
 
With an attitude like that, leave those resources to those who own them. Make that bed and be ready to lay in it.
What point are you trying to make? Like I don’t get it. We use public lands and enjoy hunting them so we are advocating for them. You are likely not in a position to benefit from their sale etc… so, what is your objective?

Specifically, what bed do you think I made?
 
What point are you trying to make? Like I don’t get it. We use public lands and enjoy hunting them so we are advocating for them. You are likely not in a position to benefit from their sale etc… so, what is your objective?

He sounds mad that western guys want to restrict his tag allocations to where he can only hunt his 10 acres.

So, he’d rather see all the land go to get back at those who don’t give him OTC tags for elk or something


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