Lobbying Wyoming game and fish negatively affecting non-resident elk hunters

[tdhanses]

Kansas residents receive nearly 3 times as much as Wyoming residents receive in federal funding.

It's available...research it.

KS is 46th least, WY is 13th most.

 

[BuzzH]

KS is 46th least, WY is 13th most.

Per resident Kansas receives $1670 in federal aid, wyoming residents $630...fact

Farm subsidies and medicare expansion assure that.

 

[tdhanses]

Per resident Kansas receives $1670 in federal aid, wyoming residents $630...fact

Such a small amount, each state could make that up and not be dependent. That amount for KS though is a drop in the bucket for overall state funding compared to WY, WY could easily handle an income tax and increased fees for big game animals.

 

[BuzzH]

Such a small amount, each state could make that up and not be dependent.

Good luck getting your agri-businesses to quit taking federal aid...or your bluehairs their Medicare expansion.

 

[tdhanses]

Good luck getting your agri-businesses to quit taking federal aid...or your bluehairs their Medicare expansion.

Nope won’t happen I agree.

 

[bsnedeker]

Such a small amount, each state could make that up and not be dependent. That amount for KS though is a drop in the bucket for overall state funding compared to WY, WY could easily handle an income tax and increased fees for big game animals.

On this you and I agree!

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[BuzzH]

Nope won’t happen I agree.

Wyoming does not take Medicare expansion funds.

 

[tdhanses]

Wyoming does not take Medicare expansion funds.

That would bump it back to 50% then?

 

[Bighorner]

These lands don’t generate near the wealth for this nation that they could, it in itself is a social welfare program.

What it comes down to is most nonresidents do not live in states with vast holdings of public lands and they have a large base in the fed gov, yet those that do always ask for support, especially orgs such as BHA and when a politican does try to sell them, they ask nonresidents to plead to their elected officials.

The more hunting becomes a greed trophy sport the more it’s base will erode and the fewer supporters we’ll see.

Those that experience these lands once or if ever will be a hard sell, same goes for the future of hunting.

Dude read that to yourself slowly, maybe out loud. Our land isnt making the money it could we should sell it and in the same breath I dont want hunting to become a rich man's sport. You are beyond reasoning with. Good luck to you.

 

[Wyobohunter]

My Wyoming rain gear is wetting through as it wasn’t built for all of these tears.

I’m out

 

[Archer86]

Most Americans will never step foot on BLM lands and would have zero issue selling. The 5 million that utilize public lands are a minority, even in CA. These are federal isssues and the majority of states Voters don’t care as much as you think. Historically it has been hunters voices that were the loudest, that’ll fade.

Yes historically you are right, doubt it lasts forever. I bet 1-10,000 voters in most states even care about public land outside of National Parks they vacation to or even know they exist.

If I remember right, last time this was pushed it included WY politicans.

That's a great idea then what do you think happens? Hunter numbers reduce and if they have no land to hunt on they have no reason to support hunting as a recreation and just as you have pushed to end the way they used to hunt on public land.. I am willing to bet alot of bitter people will push to end hunting entirely so people like you who obviously enjoy hunting private and perfer it that way face the same fate.

I believe that federal land funding is a rather small percentage of the actual federal budget well small in government terms

As a new wyoming resident I wasn't originally in support of 90 10 for dea put I am definitely get pushed that direction

 

[tdhanses]

That's a great idea then what do you think happens? Hunter numbers reduce and if they have no land to hunt on they have no reason to support hunting as a recreation and just as you have pushed to end the way they used to hunt on public land.. I am willing to bet alot of bitter people will push to end hunting entirely so people like you who obviously enjoy hunting private and perfer it that way face the same fate.

I believe that federal land funding is a rather small percentage of the actual federal budget well small in government terms

As a new wyoming resident I wasn't originally in support of 90 10 for dea put I am definitely get pushed that direction

I think you should push for it but more and more will push for the sale of public when that happens, way more so then the big 5 change that currently happened.

I personally would love to invest in lands that are currently public.

Have NA hunting follow the European model, I’m game.

 

[Archer86]

I think you should push for it but more and more will push for the sale of public when that happens, way more so then the big 5 change that currently happened.

I personally would love to invest in lands that are currently public.

They didnt do it when idaho did so whats the difference with wyoming?

 

[tdhanses]

They didnt do it when idaho did so whats the difference with wyoming?

You are new to WY.

 

[Kimber7man]

I’m just looking to buy 800 acres SW of Wheatland.…

 

[BuzzH]

I’m just looking to buy 800 acres SW of Wheatland.…

Better look at 1280 acres.

 

[Bighorns]

It might seem odd to contact a legislator from a state you don't live, but to respectfully let them know that your not happy with changes/ proposals occurring to you as a non -resident who funds their game and fish programs. Maybe a waste of time. I don't know ?

The legislators that I know here in Wyoming will be polite to you and forget the call twenty seconds later.

 

[Bighorns]

Or maybe I feel we need change, i’m ok selling 80% but if not another thought is a $50 weekly access permit or $2k annual pass for access, still sell off checker boarded lands.

Yes there is opportunity but really it’s about time we offload these lands, for most people in this nation they’ll never step foot on them.

Why not block them up and trade them instead of outright selling them. Or look down the road a few decades. Elon Musk's company will have jet packs for everyone and access won't be an issue.

 

[Bighorns]

I think they should try. I dont see these lands offering much value to a lot of non residents except for the exceptional squirrel hunting and pine cone collecting they offer.

First huge forest fire would wipe out our State's (Wy) budget. Besides, the State gov't isn't run any better than the federal one. Trust me. Been there. Done that!

 

[tdhanses]

First huge forest fire would wipe out our State's (Wy) budget. Besides, the State gov't isn't run any better than the federal one. Trust me. Been there. Done that!

In a private world logging wouldn’t be an issue and fires would vastly reduce.