Lobbying Wyoming game and fish negatively affecting non-resident elk hunters

[BuzzH]

They are in the top 10 of least, WY is in top 10 of most dependent.

7.2 billion in federal aid, 29.1% of your states revenue.

I'd say Colorado is pretty dependent on federal aid, wouldn't you agree?

 

[tdhanses]

Fire fighting costs would bankrupt states alone...it's all in the wyoming and Utah reports, I suggest reading them and you wouldn't have to ask so many questions. Questions that are easily answered with minimal effort via some basic research.

Exactly, so the states needs the feds or it isn’t sustainable.

 

[tdhanses]

And those that don't bother to see how state lands are managed. NM Game dept pays 1 million/year to hunt state land. How the fk are they gonna pay for BLM and national forest? And how are the residents of NM going to keep the land commissioner from trading some of that national forest for a few shopping malls?
Add the other western states and their state land quirks and it easy that selling public lands is a stupid idea.

The point your proving is these lands are unsustainable in states hands and the fed are cool with blowing out our deficit.

 

[CoStick]

7.2 billion in federal aid, 29.1% of your states revenue.

I'd say Colorado is pretty dependent on federal aid, wouldn't you agree?

Less than a 1/3. Top 10

 

[BuzzH]

Exactly, so the states needs the feds or it isn’t sustainable.

Yeah it's part of being the United States of America, we collectively support all kinds of things like defense spending, public lands, energy needs, infrastructure, etc etc

I'm more than happy to pay for all that and more as a tax payer.

It's what societies do.

 

[tdhanses]

Do you have experience with extraction leasing on public lands?…
Didn’t think so. Either that or you weren’t paying attention.

I do.

Guarantee those leases would cost way more if on private.

 

[BuzzH]

Less than a 1/3. Top 10

Far from self supporting and I have no grievance with that. But it's also not true that Colorado doesn't federal aid. How much did Colorado receive from those fires that burned Boulder?

 

[tdhanses]

Oh yes Colorado absolutely is dependent on federal funds, they take federal funding with both hands, every chance they get.

Haha, CO goes after what they can but they could easily survive if the well dried up.

WY has all those dirty energy sources the new green deal folks want to do away with right, then there is cattle.

 

[CoStick]

Far from self supporting and I have no grievance with that. But it's also not true that Colorado doesn't federal aid. How much did Colorado receive from those fires that burned Boulder?

Colorado is one the few that are net positive for the federal government, they provide more than they receive. 1 of 8 states.

 

[Wyobohunter]

When you get time please show me something tangible. I’ll look for the same when I do. I’m busy working on a BLM lease at the moment. Extracting and processing minerals.

 

[BuzzH]

Guarantee those leases would cost way more if on private.

Perhaps, but no necessarily but is a good reason to keep them public...and why many companies are supportive of federal lands staying federal.

 

[tdhanses]

Less than a 1/3. Top 10

So WY is pretty much funded by CA when you think about it

 

[tdhanses]

When you get time please show me something tangible. I’ll look for the same when I do. I’m busy working on a BLM lease at the moment. Extracting and processing minerals.

How long does permitting take on private vs federal land?

 

[BuzzH]

Colorado is one the few that are net positive for the federal government, they provide more than they receive. 1 of 8 states.

Until the fertilizer hits the ventilator then the feds bail you out...which I have no problem with. We help each other when it's needed.

 

[BuzzH]

How long does permitting take on private vs federal land?

Depends on the state...do some research. There are federal and state requirements on permitting.

 

[tdhanses]

Depends on the state...do some research. There are federal and state requirements on permitting.

On avg I’ve been told oil producers get permits within a few weeks on private, same ones take up to 3-4 months on federal with way more red tape.

 

[BuzzH]

Colorado is one the few that are net positive for the federal government, they provide more than they receive. 1 of 8 states.

Right and one of the main reasons Industry and tax base is so good is because people want to live, work, and play in states that have lots of public land...that Colorado has a lot of.

Another great reason to keep public lands in public hands.

 

[CoStick]

Right and one of the main reasons Industry and tax base is so good is because people want to live, work, and play in states that have lots of public land...that Colorado has a lot of.

Another great reason to keep public lands in public hands.

I am all for it. I think public needs to be public. I have a problem with a 90/10 split after the PP campaign WY runs and the dependence on federal aid.

 

[BuzzH]

On avg I’ve been told oil producers get permits within a few weeks on private, same ones take up to 3-4 months on federal with way more red tape.

Hardly seems prohibitive in any way.

 

[BuzzH]

I am all for it. I think public needs to be public. I have a problem with a 90/10 split after the PP campaign WY runs and the dependence on federal aid.

Personal problem and a total lack of understanding in how land and wildlife resources are managed independently of one another. I can't force you to understand...and until you do it's going to be a struggle for you.

Just realize your lack of understanding isn't going to change the outcome of how any state manages it's wildlife resources.

You're just going to remain frustrated, your choice and is of zero concern to me.