Lobbying Wyoming game and fish negatively affecting non-resident elk hunters

[BuzzH]

WY is a bankrupt state that other states keep viable with federal funding.

That provides cheap energy in oil, gas, coal, uranium, timber, rare earth minerals, clean air, water, food, etc etc etc to the American Public that live wayyy outside of Wyoming that are benefitting from.

The American public is a huge beneficiary of public lands across the board and for a fact.

Precisely and exactly why they are going to remain public.

 

[CoStick]

That provides cheap energy in oil, gas, coal, uranium, timber, rare earth minerals, clean air, water, food, etc etc etc to the American Public that live wayyy outside of Wyoming that are benefitting from.

The American public is a huge beneficiary of public lands across the board and for a fact.

Precisely and exactly why they are going to remain public.

Please, your state budget is half federal funds. That is basically welfare and you are comfortable biting the hands that feed you.

 

[Wyobohunter]

Please, your state budget is half federal funds. That is basically welfare and you are comfortable biting the hands that feed you.

Those federal funds are more than paid for by the public land leases. Pretty simple, maybe you can think on it a while.

 

[CoStick]

Those federal funds are more than paid for by the public land leases. Pretty simple, maybe you can think on it a while.

Keep telling yourself that, cracks me up. In WY low taxes…..great life, clearly the rest of us are paying for it….

 

[Wyobohunter]

Keep telling yourself that, cracks me up. In WY low taxes…..great life, clearly the rest of us are paying for it….

Do you have experience with extraction leasing on public lands?…
Didn’t think so. Either that or you weren’t paying attention.

I do.

 

[CoStick]

Do you have experience with extraction leasing on public lands?…
Didn’t think so. Either that or you weren’t paying attention.

I do.

I can read a budget and funding.very dependent state that pretends to be independent.

 

[BuzzH]

Please, your state budget is half federal funds. That is basically welfare and you are comfortable biting the hands that feed you.

So it's your contention that Colorado receives zero federal funds? That's funny.

 

[CoStick]

So it's your contention that Colorado receives zero federal funds? That's funny.

Sure they do, they are not reliant on federal aid. WY is dependent on federal AID.

 

[BuzzH]

Sure they do, they are not reliant on federal aid. WY is dependent on federal AID.

Oh yes Colorado absolutely is dependent on federal funds, they take federal funding with both hands, every chance they get.

 

[CoStick]

Oh yes Colorado absolutely is dependent on federal funds, they take federal funding with both hands, every chance they get.

They are in the top 10 of least, WY is in top 10 of most dependent. I believe if we want to influence allocation, it will be done on a national level, not state. Either way, carry on

 

[tdhanses]

Intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer.

Look you're not convincing anyone that selling off public lands is a good idea...mainly because it's simply not.

Most individuals, industries, and businesses that rely on them aren't going to agree either. From local fly shops, to gift shops, hotels, outdoor clothing companies, etc etc etc that thrive because of public lands.

They have an incredible amount of political clout to fight for public lands and they came out in droves to support our public lands from being stolen via the likes of ken Ivory.

You must not have been paying attention, it was great to see broad ranges of businesses, wealthy, middle class, poor and all political persuasions all on the same side of canning public land transfer.

Was awesome to see the vast public support for public lands.

I was paying attention and at that time was fully on board with fighting for public lands, with time views can and do change.

 

[BuzzH]

They are in the top 10 of least, WY is in top 10 of most dependent.

7.2 billion in federal aid, 29.1% of your states revenue.

I'd say Colorado is pretty dependent on federal aid, wouldn't you agree?

 

[tdhanses]

Fire fighting costs would bankrupt states alone...it's all in the wyoming and Utah reports, I suggest reading them and you wouldn't have to ask so many questions. Questions that are easily answered with minimal effort via some basic research.

Exactly, so the states needs the feds or it isn’t sustainable.

 

[tdhanses]

And those that don't bother to see how state lands are managed. NM Game dept pays 1 million/year to hunt state land. How the fk are they gonna pay for BLM and national forest? And how are the residents of NM going to keep the land commissioner from trading some of that national forest for a few shopping malls?
Add the other western states and their state land quirks and it easy that selling public lands is a stupid idea.

The point your proving is these lands are unsustainable in states hands and the fed are cool with blowing out our deficit.

 

[CoStick]

7.2 billion in federal aid, 29.1% of your states revenue.

I'd say Colorado is pretty dependent on federal aid, wouldn't you agree?

Less than a 1/3. Top 10

 

[BuzzH]

Exactly, so the states needs the feds or it isn’t sustainable.

Yeah it's part of being the United States of America, we collectively support all kinds of things like defense spending, public lands, energy needs, infrastructure, etc etc

I'm more than happy to pay for all that and more as a tax payer.

It's what societies do.

 

[tdhanses]

Do you have experience with extraction leasing on public lands?…
Didn’t think so. Either that or you weren’t paying attention.

I do.

Guarantee those leases would cost way more if on private.

 

[BuzzH]

Less than a 1/3. Top 10

Far from self supporting and I have no grievance with that. But it's also not true that Colorado doesn't federal aid. How much did Colorado receive from those fires that burned Boulder?

 

[tdhanses]

Oh yes Colorado absolutely is dependent on federal funds, they take federal funding with both hands, every chance they get.

Haha, CO goes after what they can but they could easily survive if the well dried up.

WY has all those dirty energy sources the new green deal folks want to do away with right, then there is cattle.

 

[CoStick]

Far from self supporting and I have no grievance with that. But it's also not true that Colorado doesn't federal aid. How much did Colorado receive from those fires that burned Boulder?

Colorado is one the few that are net positive for the federal government, they provide more than they receive. 1 of 8 states.