It is once again time for a new vehicles are garbage thread.

[CJ19]

I have to wonder if there are any actual numbers to back up that new vehicles are less reliable. When a new car fails its surely more costly and more of a PIA to get fixed but do they fail more often? Between my vehicles and my wifes I can only think of 2 instances of having to leave the vehicle at the shop in over 10 years. And neither was a breakdown, just had to get something fixed/replaced that was slowly failing.

Would be interesting to have the actual numbers w no bias. In the case of the truck issue we had yesterday, it was the DEF heater meaning it was 100% one of the modern "improvements" to save the planet.

 

[MuleyFever]

Would be interesting to have the actual numbers w no bias. In the case of the truck issue we had yesterday, it was the DEF heater meaning it was 100% one of the modern "improvements" to save the planet.

DEF systems are annoying.

Everything I hear says that by removing the emissions crap you get way better fuel mileage. So is burning more fuel with all the emissions garbage actually better? Appears to me it would be about a wash but maybe I am wrong. Not something I know a lot about.

 

[eddielasvegas]

Exactly why I drive a 25 year old 4Runner. I have zero interest (even at zero interest ) in a new car for the reason you posted, all the nannies on them, insane prices and you name it.

Luckily, I'm old so I prolly won't be driving more than 15-ish years and I plan on it being in my T4R.

Good luck getting back to your hunt ASAP.


Eddie

 

[Muleyczy]

Would be interesting to have the actual numbers w no bias. In the case of the truck issue we had yesterday, it was the DEF heater meaning it was 100% one of the modern "improvements" to save the planet.

DEF heater?…..what’s the issue. Too cold out and it can’t heat up the DEF?

 

[CJ19]

DEF heater?…..what’s the issue. Too cold out and it can’t heat up the DEF?

Its high 20s and the def heater is not functioning. The def heater needs replaced or maybe wiring i would think. If it gets into the teens and the def tank and lines freeze, serious issues will arise. We have been unable to get the 175 mile to safe mode to go off today. So we maybe driving alllll the way back home at 60 mph or less. We have a call in to a chevy diesel mechanic buddy so maybe he can help. But again, modern truck problems drastically alters multiple days of a hunt.

 

[BUCKELK]

I have 2 trucks: A 2017 Ram 4x4 w/diesel and my "forever" truck is a 2006 Chevy 1500HD with the 6.0/L480e 4.10 tranny. The Ram has been very reliable but is very costly to maintain. Even oil changes and fuel filters are costly. BUT, it's a tool and I need it for the boat and/or all the heavy lifting. The ole Chevy only has 110K miles. I haven't put a dime in it except for routine maintenance stuff like tires, stereo, back up camera, rhino liner and a Bakflip.

If my life depended on getting from point A to point B, I'm hopping in the 20 year old Chevy.

Is that 1500HD still available?
Seriously, those were awesome trucks and at 110K miles, yours is rare!

 

[Flymost]

Ha, I just left the local Ram dealer. Had to take a look as I could get a Big Horn 4x4 for 40k. Climbed back in my diesel with 13 trouble free years and left with a big grin on my face thinking that my old truck would probably outlast the new one anyway.