Is it all Leopolds

[Marbles]

Reading the Rokslide Leupold forums is like taking a fork, sticking it in your eye and twisting it……

Yet, we keep coming back. Guess I'm a bit masochistic, because you're not wrong.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Did somebody say something?

 

[Marbles]

Did somebody say something?

Made me smile, thank you.

 

[Castle Rock]

Castle Rock.....Nightforce scopes are made in America, in Orofino, Idaho. The glass is imported from Japan. Most scope and bino manufacturers do not make their own glass. Top tier glass is a highly specialized process. So no, they are not made or assembled in Japan/Asia. SWFA and Vortex etc are. That was my point.

Jake, I have the same NF NSX 2-10x42 scope. The other is a NSX 5.5-22x50. Both are a bit heavy though for my lightweight rigs but it's all about compromising.

Really, where do you think your NF are made

 

[Castle Rock]

So did we work out where your NSXs came from?

 

[Schmo]

All current NF scopes besides the ATACR line are made in Japan. Several years ago, some NXS models were made in America. I think @pacoalcracker NXS scopes are probably made in Japan.

 

[wapitibob]

We used to make scope parts for NF, every part you can see on a BEAST we made except the lenses. The NXS was/maybe still is made on the same Japanese factory line as the Vortex PST. The internals are almost identical. In fact, "somebody" decided to put some NF erector springs in the V1 PST's till they got discovered.
The NXS is assembled in the Japanese plant, shipped to Orofino, dis assembled, bonded back together, and tested. I don't believe the NXS was ever made in the USA; certainly not in Orofino, they didn't have the tooling to make a scope. Last I heard NF was building a 30,000 facility, no idea if it's done or what they're making in it.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Made me smile, thank you.

Good one, we have more in common with sense of humor than we think lol.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Reading the "SWFA website upgraded thread". Parallax adjustment is being talked about. I found a parallax calculator on the web. With a 100 yard parallax free adjustment with a 40mm objective there shows to be 3.15" error at 500 yds. With 50MM objective, just a hair less than 4" error at said distance.

I don't know much about parallax. Is that an absolute or is that the worst case for parallax depending on the shooters alignment?

 

[Marbles]

Reading the "SWFA website upgraded thread". Parallax adjustment is being talked about. I found a parallax calculator on the web. With a 100 yard parallax free adjustment with a 40mm objective there shows to be 3.15" error at 500 yds. With 50MM objective, just a hair less than 4" error at said distance.

I don't know much about parallax. Is that an absolute or is that the worst case for parallax depending on the shooters alignment?

Depends on the calculator. The one I have seen said it was worsts case that someone might shoot with, but absolute worst case (think scope shadow almost to the reticle center would be about double).

It changes based on where the fixed parallax is set to. 250-300 yards appears to be the sweet spot.

 

[35WhelenAI]

That got me thinking of other effects of putting an accurate shot on game in addition to shift, for a scope that is non adjustable. I would think the max error would be the output of a calculator, JAT.

Longer range shooters, would a fixed parallax scope do as well for you at 500+ yds vs an adjustable parallax scope, if eye alignment was square, or whatever the term is?

 

[z987k]

Reading the "SWFA website upgraded thread". Parallax adjustment is being talked about. I found a parallax calculator on the web. With a 100 yard parallax free adjustment with a 40mm objective there shows to be 3.15" error at 500 yds. With 50MM objective, just a hair less than 4" error at said distance.

I don't know much about parallax. Is that an absolute or is that the worst case for parallax depending on the shooters alignment?

That's the maximum error. If your head is in the right place it's closer to 0.

 

[Marbles]

That got me thinking of other effects of putting an accurate shot on game in addition to shift, for a scope that is non adjustable. I would think the max error would be the output of a calculator, JAT.

Longer range shooters, would a fixed parallax scope do as well for you at 500+ yds vs an adjustable parallax scope, if eye alignment was square, or whatever the term is?

With perfect eye alignment, parallax doesn't matter. I would say good eye alignment probably gives 1/2 the error. But that is a SWAG.

The calculator I have used. https://www.lelandwest.com/parallax...onid=58544F374FB1B0C8F2B008CACD8F617C.cfusion

 

[Coyote conquest]

It’s not a big stretch. I see the guys who post “mine has never lost zero” all the time. Thousands of rounds and big game animals over 400 yards is not in their wheelhouse. Not stupid, just an observation. You may be the exemption.

I take the killing of big game far more seriously than shooting paper. If I only shot paper I wouldn’t care if my scope lost zero.

I find this to be way off base. You're just trying to tell everyone how much money you have and how much better and smarter you are with out saying it.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I have 4 leupolds and shoot probably more in a week than the average person shoots in 10 years. Ive went through over 4000 small rifle primers in the last year alone. I bought my last case in Oct of last year. Thats not counting large rifle or pistol.

They only one I ever had to re-zero was one where my sling broke and the rifle hit the ground. It was about 5 moa off. Tge ocular was actually dented. I re-zeroed it and kept hunting. Sent it in later.
I love how you ASS-ume things.
Leupolds just plain work for what they are. Show me other scopes from 40 years ago that still work and hold zero. And hold their value. If they didn't then people wouldn't buy them. People speak with their wallets every day. I'm so glad you are "flexing on the poors" or at least you think you are. I'm sure NF is the only scope that works

 

[Formidilosus]

That got me thinking of other effects of putting an accurate shot on game in addition to shift, for a scope that is non adjustable. I would think the max error would be the output of a calculator, JAT.

Its the maximum error possible, and nowhere
near what people actually get.

Longer range shooters, would a fixed parallax scope do as well for you at 500+ yds vs an adjustable parallax scope, if eye alignment was square, or whatever the term is?

Yes. A fixed parralax 10’ish X scope works just fine.

 

[Marbles]

I find this to be way off base. You're just trying to tell everyone how much money you have and how much better and smarter you are with out saying it.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I have 4 leupolds and shoot probably more in a week than the average person shoots in 10 years. Ive went through over 4000 small rifle primers in the last year alone. I bought my last case in Oct of last year. Thats not counting large rifle or pistol.

They only one I ever had to re-zero was one where my sling broke and the rifle hit the ground. It was about 5 moa off. Tge ocular was actually dented. I re-zeroed it and kept hunting. Sent it in later.
I love how you ASS-ume things.
Leupolds just plain work for what they are. Show me other scopes from 40 years ago that still work and hold zero. And hold their value. If they didn't then people wouldn't buy them. People speak with their wallets every day. I'm so glad you are "flexing on the poors" or at least you think you are. I'm sure NF is the only scope that works

Owning 4 Leupolds is flexing on the poors, and this post says you have never been poor enough to know that. Back before I knew better, I always drooled over Leupolds, but they were out of my budget, thankfully I learned a few things before more than iron sights were affordable for me. Leupold, even their cheapest scope, is not a poor mans optic.

Buy the way, nice job creating a straw man, try grappling with the actual arguments next time (SWFA, Trijicon, Maven, S&B, and NF all make at least one scope known to work, some of them are n the low end Leupold price range).

 

[35WhelenAI]

Thanks for the responses fellas! Get set behind rifle like you should and it's a non-issue in the general sense.

 

[BigNate]

My son recently went to a Long Range Shooters of Utah class so I asked him about their inventory of rifles and scopes.

Nearly every rifle was a custom, about half chassis, half stocked. The scopes were mostly Leopold mark5, a few NF.

Funny they have such bad equipment but he still hit the milk jug challenge at 1k , managed to hit at a mile, and had the smallest group in his class. All with a 6.5 needsmore and a mark 5.

I don't own a mark 5, but maybe I should.

 

[bmart2622]

Was the rifle zeroed at the start of the school?

 

[Castle Rock]