Is it all Leopolds

[JackButler]

Agreed. However scopes aren’t built to be used like a car daily. Different entity. Point was I can go anywhere and find people unhappy on the internet. Really doesn’t mean a whole lot on the face of it.

Me you or the next guy have no way to verify who’s responding here and their credentials

Like I said I appreciate the input and it’s helping shape my decision. However it would be silly for me to bite fully into some guys with anecdotal experience and pointing to “look our forum did a poll and a few tests” it must be true

Exactly! Heck google “nightforce scope won’t hold zero” or “nightforce scope problems”. I think NF scopes are incredible, but plenty of internet experts whose rifle setup and shooting skills are unknown think otherwise.