Idaho Hunting Fees 2021 Non Resident (Big Elk Increase)

[87TT]

Not going to be a drop in the bucket. There is a set number of NR tags of all kinds. I'll bet the percentage of JR mentored tags is very small.

 

[KurtR]

The true battle for Western Hunting is a federal battle. Your attitude that only residents of your particular state matter to the future of Western Hunting is naive at best. We need nationwide support in the federal fight over wolves, access, etc...

Not a federal battle at all states control the hunting. Just look at Wyoming and the wilderness rule. What fight over wolves go kill a bunch no one is stopping you. That take on wolves might be about 25 years late......

 

[Buglebrush]

States were only allowed to hunt wolves after winning the delisting from the feds.

 

[GregB]

States were only allowed to hunt wolves after winning the delisting from the feds.

The feds are also the ones that forced them to be introduced.

 

[idahohikker]

States were only allowed to hunt wolves after winning the delisting from the feds.

You appear to not understand the state and federal interplay here. It's common here especially with guys who aren't from the west. States manage wildlife and set seasons and distribute tags. The feds forced wolf introduction but they are normally not in the animal game. They manage the land uses outside of hunting like motor vehicle access, logging, etc.

If you're making the point that people from all states should be invested in protecting hunting, I totally agree. There's going to be limited western hunting in the near future and now but it's still higher than numbers from decades ago when people didn't travel. People back east can hunt the west when the draw tags and hunt their home state as well. Hopefully hunter recruitment stays strong but western hunting is about tapped out on the nonresident side for obtaining tags OTC. That ship is sailing due to oversized demand.

 

[Okhotnik]

You appear to not understand the state and federal interplay here. It's common here especially with guys who aren't from the west. States manage wildlife and set seasons and distribute tags. The feds forced wolf introduction but they are normally not in the animal game. They manage the land uses outside of hunting like motor vehicle access, logging, etc.

If you're making the point that people from all states should be invested in protecting hunting, I totally agree. There's going to be limited western hunting in the near future and now but it's still higher than numbers from decades ago when people didn't travel. People back east can hunt the west when the draw tags and hunt their home state as well. Hopefully hunter recruitment stays strong but western hunting is about tapped out on the nonresident side for obtaining tags OTC. That ship is sailing due to oversized demand.

I predict more migration from the figged up urban areas on the east and west coast to western states as a result of the China virus in the next few years. So even less non res opportunities. Better start planning where you want to live.

 

[Buglebrush]

You appear to not understand the state and federal interplay here. It's common here especially with guys who aren't from the west. States manage wildlife and set seasons and distribute tags. The feds forced wolf introduction but they are normally not in the animal game. They manage the land uses outside of hunting like motor vehicle access, logging, etc.

If you're making the point that people from all states should be invested in protecting hunting, I totally agree. There's going to be limited western hunting in the near future and now but it's still higher than numbers from decades ago when people didn't travel. People back east can hunt the west when the draw tags and hunt their home state as well. Hopefully hunter recruitment stays strong but western hunting is about tapped out on the nonresident side for obtaining tags OTC. That ship is sailing due to oversized demand.

I'm a born and raised Idaho man. Currently living in WA for work. Been hunting Idaho every year for over twenty years.
My comment is in response to the one above it. The Feds have way more power to cause harm than you give them credit by federally protecting certain species and destroying access and entire populations of other species to "protect" wolves, owls, grizzlies, etc...
My whole point is that nationwide youth hunter recruitment is vital in our struggle against anti hunters and their allies in DC. The next generation won't care or understand Western Hunting if they never participate. Read the rest of my comments above for context.

 

[idahohikker]

I'm a born and raised Idaho man. Currently living in WA for work. Been hunting Idaho every year for over twenty years.
My comment is in response to the one above it. The Feds have way more power to cause harm than you give them credit by federally protecting certain species and destroying access and entire populations of other species to "protect" wolves, owls, grizzlies, etc...
My whole point is that nationwide youth hunter recruitment is vital in our struggle against anti hunters and their allies in DC. The next generation won't care or understand Western Hunting if they never participate. Read the rest of my comments above for context.

The generations before and after this little mini boom of western hunting hunt their home states. I don’t think that not being able to instagram a picture of yourself hunting in WY wilderness will be the difference.

 

[KurtR]

I'm a born and raised Idaho man. Currently living in WA for work. Been hunting Idaho every year for over twenty years.
My comment is in response to the one above it. The Feds have way more power to cause harm than you give them credit by federally protecting certain species and destroying access and entire populations of other species to "protect" wolves, owls, grizzlies, etc...
My whole point is that nationwide youth hunter recruitment is vital in our struggle against anti hunters and their allies in DC. The next generation won't care or understand Western Hunting if they never participate. Read the rest of my comments above for context.

that makes no sense hunter recruitment has to be done where people live traveling and hunting one week a year isnt going to keep any ones interest. Western hunting in the grand scheme of hunters is a very small segment. Whitetail , upland and waterfowl have a way bigger following. So if your looking for numbers to fight anti hunters those are the segments that will have them.

 

[Buglebrush]

I have family in eastern states that hunt extensively, and it wasn't until they came West to hunt with me that they opposed wolves. Just because someone hunts whitetail in Virginia doesn't mean he's an ally of Western States, but expose him to hunting and hunters out west and he begins to think differently. Anyhow, I stand by my original contention with you that this hostility within the hunting community from different states is going to contribute to our downfall.

 

[KurtR]

What hostility. Raising prices is just business nothing with being hostile towards any one

 

[mwebs]

Can anyone provide numbers that prove "western hunting is a small percentage of the hunting population?" I'm actually curious because I do not think that is true. Compile tags from Western states and compare to Midwest or eastern states in similar numbers.

 

[KurtR]

Can anyone provide numbers that prove "western hunting is a small percentage of the hunting population?" I'm actually curious because I do not think that is true. Compile tags from Western states and compare to Midwest or eastern states in similar numbers.

in 2018 in South Dakota there were 69000 non resident pheasant hunters and 53000 resident pheasant hunters. That’s just one state and one bird.

 

[mwebs]

in 2018 in South Dakota there were 69000 non resident pheasant hunters and 53000 resident pheasant hunters. That’s just one state and one bird.

Ok CO sold 215000 elk licenses, 102,000 non resident in 2019, that's just one state and a lot bigger bird. I'm just pointing out that maybe the hunter recruitment argument for Western states is tired. People need to find ways to get hunters out in their home states to make an impact.

 

[KurtR]

Ok CO sold 215000 elk licenses, 102,000 non resident in 2019, that's just one state and a lot bigger bird. I'm just pointing out that maybe the hunter recruitment argument for Western states is tired. People need to find ways to get hunters out in their home states to make an impact.

We are in 100% agreement. Thats what i said about a while ago. If going out of state to hunt hinges on hunter recruitment we are in trouble. Especially western big game since it is so specialized and way harder to get into vs bird hunting or even whitetail hunting.

 

[northwesthunter]

As long as we keep paying the states will all keep prices creeping up..