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inyago

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Matt, do you mean to say search engines cannot manipulate what they host, like ff..
They can alter and change anything, including publishing content using others sites, to make it look legit..
We have been doing it for years,"its called info warfare" dont belive anything, verify all..
 

4rcgoat

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Haha, why would our government care about the vaccination status of illegals when almost 30% of US citizens (mostly those who are bringing up this angle) are already here and present the same risk? Illegal immigration is a drop in the bucket by comparison to the almost 100M unvaccinated Americans - some of whom are unwilling to protect themselves but are crying for the government to protect them.
Illegal immigration is a drop in the bucket?!!!! You seriously dont have clue,wonder if your opinion would change if you lived near the border.
 

5MilesBack

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Are you more worried about the healthcare implications of 1M or 2M of them versus 100M of us?
I'm worried (more like concerned) about the direction that this administration and the left is (and has been) taking the nation. Everything else is just a symptom of the real problem. A lot of folks get stuck or focused on single issues and completely miss the bigger and more important picture. But every single one of these other symptoms all continue to point to the bigger picture problem.

When an administration refuses to use logic and reason in even one of those issues, it immediately takes away their credibility in all issues.......just as their illogical immigration policies have done. Immigration itself isn't the problem.......it's just one of the symptoms of the problem. When you put all those symptoms together......they all add up to utter incompetence or willful negligence, or both. Regardless of the reasons, it all adds up to the nation's future as a whole, suffering the consequences.
 

fwafwow

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As you intimated, it is not about a % of the population but rather getting the vaccine into the arms of people in the more susceptible age groups. When you look at hospitalizations, people under 18 represent a tiny fraction of the total. It is predominantly the adult holdouts who are taking up beds. Those are predominantly the unvaccinated even though they are the minority.

So if 84.9% of people over 18 have had at least one shot, and 72.6% of them are fully vaccinated, what percentage of the remaining people in that age group needs to either get their second shot (if you are taking the position that only 1 shot isn't protective at all) or otherwise become fully vaccinated? And what's the "100M" figure you keep referencing? I suspect that 100M number includes quite a few infants and other children. And if you acknowledge that 100M includes many people under 12, doesn't the 62% figure you keep referencing include everyone in the US without regard to age?
 
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5MilesBack

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It's not enough until EVERYONE falls in line with the program. I can't see that happening, so we'll continue to keep hearing their constant complaining and disdain for "the unvaccinated" regardless whether anyone is in the hospitals or not. At this point they hate everything about Americans exercising their rights, freedoms, and liberties because they hate the foundation of this nation and all it stands for. They're waging war from within, and the tactic has worked against many Americans already. SMH
 

dtrkyman

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If the vax is so "effective" why did Illinois just break the record for covid cases in a day? Illinois shows a total of 760k cases and 12k plus in deaths since the beginning, that is like 1.5 percent give or take as those were not the exact numbers.

How many of those 12k were healthy folks?

Covid is rampant in my family in the Chicago area right now! Young old, healthy, fat, skinny vax no vax, only two out of dozens have been in the hospital, my 80 year old uncle who will be released today, not the picture of health and my cousin in law who has really bad asthma who is still in the hospital and is vaxxed.

They all caught it at a recent wake, most were sick a day or 2 and then good, many never got it.

It is a weird virus for sure, and I still do not personally know anyone who has died from Covid, a good friends Mother in law died with Covid, which she caught in the hospital while she was in there already in really bad shape.

I lived in the Chicago area most of my life, definitely not a good place for Covid avoidance and fortunately no casualties yet! Let's hope it stays that way.

I am not vaxxed, have no plans to be, hate me for it I really could care less, do as you wish and maybe focus on your general health and get outside.

Seems to me the vaxxed would be more likely to spread, many think they were good to go because the vax, went out and spread it, maybe they had no symptoms due to the vax being so amazing? See you can spin it how you like!

I have been periodically taking Lomatium root(Biscuit root) and many other names.

"There are two varieties of Lomatium dissectum- both of which can be either yellow or purple in color when in bloom, but are distinguished by longer or shorter stalks on the fruit. The Native Americans used this plant as both a food and medicine and scientific studies have shown it to have antiviral and antibacterial properties. The root extracts were shown to inhibit rotavirus, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, and Mycobacterium avium. Lomatium dissectum became widely popular after the influenza pandemic of 1916-1918 when a physician from Nevada reported a complete lack of influenza mortality in a Native American group taking the herb."

Read about it, sounds like an amazing plant.
 
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fwafwow

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Is this a discussion of COVID or legal status? Some are conflating the two in an attempt to take the crosshairs off themselves, but I think any reasonable and informed person should see right through that.
I don't think it is conflating, I think it's a point about consistency - but I guess I'm unreasonable and uninformed. If we all care about the virus (or for those who do), it would seem possible for the government to do two or more things at once. But if your point appears to be that unvaccinated folks are taking (and will again take) up beds, then vaccinating people crossing our borders without permission would at least make sense to consider. And if the 1M or 2M figure you quote is accurate, then it would seem a much easier logistical hurdle to achieve. If the WH sent a doom and gloom message to the entire country about "a winter of severe illness and death" to "encourage" voluntary vaccination, are they at least giving the same message (translated) at the borders?
 

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Illegal immigration is a drop in the bucket?!!!! You seriously dont have clue,wonder if your opinion would change if you lived near the border.
Is COVID worse at the border because of illegal immigration? That is topical. That illegal immigration is a problem is not.
 

RMM

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I thought you were referring to this, wasn't trying to correct you, just adding a bit of satire

 

Vandy321

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I thought you were referring to this, wasn't trying to correct you, just adding a bit of satire

Just giving you a hard time dude, correct away.

To be fair to you, it did eventually become 15 days to flatten the curve...after about 90 days of "15 days" to slow the spread failed.
 
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cod007

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Is COVID worse at the border because of illegal immigration? That is topical. That illegal immigration is a problem is not........
......Says MattB virtually all by his lonesome self!
 
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