How’s your fuel prices

[AK Troutbum]

Our fuel prices have gone up $1.25/gal. in the last 9 days. Every time I drive by our local gas station, which is every day, it seems to go up $0.05-0.25 daily. I just paid $4.95/gal. for diesel this evening.


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[Poser]

Getting higher but worth every penny if it allows us to reestablish some good core values in this world. Sometimes a good reset just has to happen.

This guy crusades hard.

What are we looking at for cost so far? Somewhere in the realm of ~40 billion in military operational costs, fast tracking that number with a cost of about 1.5 billion a day. Isreal is at about 3 billion a week. Unknown how much of that is from US funding, but at least some.

Global market volatility due to dramatic increases in oil prices may have cost as much as 3.5 trillion so far.

Direct cost the American consumer so far? Difficult to estimate. Though, The longer it goes, the more it costs. How much does this add to the deficit and what will the interest end up costing? Probably too difficult to estimate anywhere close to accurately, but safe to say not insignificant.

Then, what? 13 US soldiers killed? ~150 casualties? (Both numbers may have increased by the time you read this) And let’s throw in another 2,500 Marines on their way to presumably put some boots on the ground on Khang island.

With all of this factored in, how much is the reset going to cost and when will it be achieved? As another commenter above posted, there’s no off-ramp here. A “reset” can’t be achieved until insured oil flows safely through the strait of Hormuz and the US isnt spending $12-30 million dollars to intercept $50,000 drones. And, practically speaking, this outcome doesn’t involve manual Naval escorts for every single tanker through the region because that is too slow, too bottlenecked, too expensive and appears to be logistically impractical or even impossible.

You anticipating that we have bought into a 6 week reset, a 6 month reset, a 6 year reset or a 60 year reset? Let’s see some math.

 

[Wheels]

I'm afraid to price fertilizer now with the Strait of Hormuz being closed, need to fertilize the hay fields pretty soon.

 

[Wagondriver]

This guy crusades hard.

What are we looking at for cost so far? Somewhere in the realm of ~40 billion in military operational costs, fast tracking that number with a cost of about 1.5 billion a day. Isreal is at about 3 billion a week. Unknown how much of that is from US funding, but at least some.

Global market volatility due to dramatic increases in oil prices may have cost as much as 3.5 trillion so far.

Direct cost the American consumer so far? Difficult to estimate. Though, The longer it goes, the more it costs. How much does this add to the deficit and what will the interest end up costing? Probably too difficult to estimate anywhere close to accurately, but safe to say not insignificant.

Then, what? 13 US soldiers killed? ~150 casualties? (Both numbers may have increased by the time you read this) And let’s throw in another 2,500 Marines on their way to presumably put some boots on the ground on Khang island.

With all of this factored in, how much is the reset going to cost and when will it be achieved? As another commenter above posted, there’s no off-ramp here. A “reset” can’t be achieved until insured oil flows safely through the strait of Hormuz and the US isnt spending $12-30 million dollars to intercept $50,000 drones. And, practically speaking, this outcome doesn’t involve manual Naval escorts for every single tanker through the region because that is too slow, too bottlenecked, too expensive and appears to be logistically impractical or even impossible.

You anticipating that we have bought into a 6 week reset, a 6 month reset, a 6 year reset or a 60 year reset? Let’s see some math.

We should have just left Iran alone. When they get their nuke figured out, which wouldn't be long, we can have a different kind of reset. How much would that cost???

 

[Poser]

We should have just left Iran alone. When they get their nuke figured out, which wouldn't be long, we can have a different kind of reset. How much would that cost???

Likely depends on what the dollar value of Israel is.... And, while the US ends up spending the coming decades "resetting" the Gulf (because we don't already have ~70 years of "resetting" invested in it), Russia increases its land mass and access to resources, Taiwan is "absorbed" by China with no viable technological replacement strategy for the US, and South Korea will suffer near total infrastructure loss + untold amount of death and destruction at the hands of North Korea, further reducing, possibly negating entirely, the US ability to source necessary technology.

But, hey, no new wars, right?

 

[Machingeaneer]

We should have just left Iran alone. When they get their nuke figured out, which wouldn't be long, we can have a different kind of reset. How much would that cost???

Do you ever stop to wonder why you've been told that Iran is 5 minutes away from getting that nuke built for the last 30 years?

 

[*zap*]

Do you ever stop to wonder why you've been told that Iran is 5 minutes away from getting that nuke built for the last 30 years?

That is not exactly true is it?

 

[madtinker]

Getting higher but worth every penny if it allows us to reestablish some good core values in this world. Sometimes a good reset just has to happen.

If bombing children is your idea of core values, we are not the same.

 

[Machingeaneer]

That is not exactly true is it?

5 minutes, if taken literally, is a stretch but if you go back to articles from 1996, US intelligence was claiming Iran would have unconventional weapons ready by 2002. It has been a consistent excuse for US involvement in the region for 30 years.

 

[Poser]

That is not exactly true is it?

It can be, give or take, and depending on your definition. Intelligence agencies started warning about Iran's nuclear program in the early 1990s, though, the definition of "close" has shifted dramatically at different times when convenient for negotiations or defense spending.

There's been some amount of speculation that Iran has long operated under a "Threshold State" Strategy: by developing the infrastructure, knowledge, and material required to build a weapon, Iran gains diplomatic and geopolitical leverage. Though, actually building and testing a bomb would likely trigger severe consequences, potentially including a preemptive military strike by Israel or the United States, and the loss of support from Russia and China. Iran can risk one, but maybe not both consequences.

And then, along the way, they have suffered significant setbacks due to sabotage, assassinations, cyber attacks, sanctions, bunker busters etc.

Iran has been "close" to having nuclear weapons because it demonstrates internal philosophical resistance to the West, projects strength for Russia and China and negotiating power on the global stage. Iran has also been "close" to having nuclear weapons because it justifies sanctions and defense spending by the US. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle there. No doubt Iran would have nuclear weapons if they could. Now, though, they may be willing to enact vengeance, which will likely require a long game. 9-11, for example, took 12 years to plan and execute.

 

[*zap*]

Personally, I support the president. Period.
That is very true.