How to end NR Wyoming wilderness ban?

[wyogoat]

It's a shared right to a shared resource. Whether its a federal or state resource that governing body is responsible for regulating it in a manner that the most number of people get the most use of it.

All 50 states view that as a resource managed by the state though right?

 

[wapitibob]

So what does that violation mean, do you lose your hunting rights or anything or pay a small fine?

Not sure but I suspect it's like most others and is a fine.

 

[wapitibob]

When I see something that says a NR has the "right to hunt" in WY it'll be a first.

 

[ThorM465]

All 50 states view that as a resource managed by the state though right?

Just because they view it that way doesn't mean they're right.

Additionally, if we assume they are correct (and I do strongly prefer the states manage this resource) it doesn't mean that the states can't abuse it. Maybe there should be limits and checks on this power?

 

[KenLee]

"Would you shoot a buck on private you don’t have permission to hunt?"

Wayminit, how big we talking?

 

[wyogoat]

This thread has taught me I define the terms “corrupt” and “abuse” differently than others do…

 

[tdhanses]

Interesting so you choose which laws you want to follow. Too bad you didn’t answer the other questions.

Which do you want to manage public land, the state or the Feds?

Truthfully I’m moving more towards selling all Federal land, let the highest bidder take it.

Sell off all BLM and Federal land other then National monuments and parks.

 

[tdhanses]

Valid with certain caveats which are clearly stated. I want to ask these questions:

You drum banger are aware it’s not ALL federal lands that are restricted, right? Just the ones designated as wilderness? Which encompasses a very small percentage of the state.

Do you feel, that since it’s federally owned and funded, you should be able to hunt elk in Yellowstone since you have a tag the state issued?

Do you feel, that since it’s federally owned and funded, you should be able to hunt Native American Reservations since the state issued you a tag ?

All these restrictions are clearly laid out when you are choosing what areas to apply in.

I’ll be honest in that I’d rank my wilderness spot fourth on my best areas list and the top three are all spots anyone on this forum can hunt. It’s not some mythical land. It can be great but it can be really tough too. I just like it because I don’t like seeing people and I loathe hearing atv’s and sxs zipping around.

Federal land is federal land.

 

[tdhanses]

This thread has taught me I define the terms “corrupt” and “abuse” differently than others do…

Of course when it’s to your benefit.

 

[tdhanses]

Not sure but I suspect it's like most others and is a fine.

Yeah from what I gather it’s not a big deal.

 

[tdhanses]

When I see something that says a NR has the "right to hunt" in WY it'll be a first.

No NR has a right, I don’t think anyone has ever said that but if the state sells the NR a tag for an area they shouldn’t cherry pick to protect an industry and force them to use a certain industry, how would you feel if it included residents must use an outfitter for a tag they have from the home state? That’s the point, people are cool with it because in reality as a resident it isn’t an issue for them.

If you want to limit the NR, that’s fine, if you want to limit federal lands then make all NR tags be purchased directly through an outfitter and only good for their permitted area.

 

[tdhanses]

All 50 states view that as a resource managed by the state though right?

I think CO manages through the ballot box.

 

[wyogoat]

I think CO manages through the ballot box.

Something we agree on…

 

[tdhanses]

Something we agree on…

Oh I bet we agree on a lot, lol.

 

[wyogoat]

Of course when it’s to your benefit.

I guess nothing on this thread rises to the threshold of corrupt or abuse to me compared to what’s going on every day.
And as I’ve said many times, get it changed. There are ways to put the wheels in motion but as has been stated, the outfitter board is pretty powerful and the elected state officials are very pro Wyoming Resident. Just as I’d hope other states elected officials would be.

Oh I bet we agree on a lot, lol.

I’m sure we would agree on the majority of topics. I just like pulling up to a trailhead and the only other vehicle has a Wyoming plate so I know they endured the same shitty winter and are contributing something to the state and enjoy a sheep's company just as much as I do…

 

[tdhanses]

I guess nothing on this thread rises to the threshold of corrupt or abuse to me compared to what’s going on every day.
And as I’ve said many times, get it changed. There are ways to put the wheels in motion but as has been stated, the outfitter board is pretty powerful and the elected state officials are very pro Wyoming Resident. Just as I’d hope other states elected officials would be.

I’m sure we would agree on the majority of topics. I just like pulling up to a trailhead and the only other vehicle has a Wyoming plate so I know they endured the same shitty winter and are contributing something to the state and enjoy a sheep's company just as much as I do…

In reality it just bugs me but that’s about it, the reality is, hunting outside the wilderness is better for elk and deer, no desire to go after sheep or goat.

 

[IDVortex]

There was mention on if a
223 was big enough for wilderness elk in WY. No, they're not a public land animal and have a bullet proof vest on. It's been debated before that a public land elk is tougher to kill due to the bullet proof vest vs a private land elk. Unless of course you use a .338 win mag with core lok ammo.

 

[wytx]

Some of your heads would explode if Wyoming still required all NRs to use a guide or outfitter to hunt, we used to do just that.

 

[StupidLightweight]

Some of your heads would explode if Wyoming still required all NRs to use a guide or outfitter to hunt, we used to do just that.

Wow, that's nuts, but it would make more sense than what is currently happening. It would also make more sense if they prevented NR hunting on state ground without a resident or guide.

 

[tdhanses]

Wow, that's nuts, but it would make more sense than what is currently happening. It would also make more sense if they prevented NR hunting on state ground without a resident or guide.

I agree it would make way more sense but they wouldn’t make as much money as tag sales would tank.