How do you guys go on these cool hunts?

[Dos Perros]

Who wouldn't want to be born with money? However, you don't get to pick and choose who your parents are. This logic does not work in most scenarios. It would have to be grandparents or great grandparents passing the capital on early enough in their life for it to be of significant benefit, not the kid's parents. My parents are in their late 70s. I am 50. I'd be up the creek without a paddle if I was waiting on my parents to pass me capital to help stabilize my financials to where it would be of great benefit. I'll be 70+ years old before they pass anything on to me. Not really beneficial. The caveat being if my parents had "stupid money". So much that they could afford to start to divide it up early. That's a very very small percentage of the population.

I would argue that the better item a parent can pass on to the children is the importance of an education or skilled trade that will be of value to them and their own family. Something that generates financial stability. The importance of hard work, sacrifice and dedication. My parents are lower middle class at best. I had all I ever needed and got a lot of what I wanted but I learned as I got older, it was often because my parents put themselves in financial situations, they shouldn't have just to make me and my siblings happy. That really bothered me. I knew I did not want to be in the same financial situation they were in when I was older. I set goals, sacrificed a lot of my free time in high school and college. My parents encouraged me the entire way. They were instrumental in helping me achieve my education goals. They didn't pay a dime, they couldn't afford to. But they loved and supported me.

With my own kids, all teenagers currently, I am doing the same with them. My two boys have high ambitions for careers because they have seen what those careers can provide to them. They see the reward and are willing to make the sacrifice. My daughters, not so much as of yet. When I ask them what career choices they are currently considering, they mention an interest in this or that. I then ask them about their foreseeable lifestyle, things they want to have or do. Then I mentioned the possibility of being single for a long time, possibility of having a spouse that may tragically die down the road. I try to cover all the scenarios. Then I asked, does your career path 1) make you happy most importantly 2) will it provide for you/family given these scenarios or your lifestyle. If it doesn't, I don't have to tell them it won't. They immediately realize whether it will or will not. This has created ongoing conversations initiated by my daughters with me on multiple occasions now over the past several years about this career or that career. This is an conversation that never gets had in my opinion. Kids just do whatever, with no interest or input from their parents. We are failing them. While I will never tell them what they can or cannot do, I will point out the pros and cons of each career. It's my job to educate them. Their view of reality has greatly changed with our conversations.

The only thing each and every one of us can give our children no matter our circumstances is 1) Love and 2) Education (not in the sense of paying for college.....but in the sense of teaching them life skills).

As to the OP, Duckhunter14 hit the easy button...... stop the daily vices that add up significantly (Starbucks, Energy Drinks, Sodas, Alcohol, Tobacco, eating out, etc etc.) An OTC tag in many states isn't that expensive. I bet if you looked at your finances and focused on saving you could easily swing a out of state hunt every 2-3 years.

The value of an education or skilled trade is going to zero eventually.

 

[Cedarsavage]

I used to do maintenance at a college mainly cuz I had a ton of vacation and could spend 2 weeks a year out west and have time left over. Now I only have two weeks and take some sick time unpaid time to stretch it. Hope to be self employed in a year or so and able to make my own schedule. Big thing for me no car payments and low mortgage compared to our income. My wife and I both have an allowance we can spend no ?’s asked. I figure I’ll drop $800 on a diy western hunt this year and $400 on bears/bait at home. People act like it’s a lot but all those people call me cheap day to day.

 

[MuleyFever]

My favorite is when they try to justify it by how much better fuel mileage they get. Just STFU bro

Thats what I told my wife when I bought a new truck back in October. As long as she believes it Im good.

 

[Hnthrdr]

I get it. Have a handful of customers like that. Great folks to deal with, but also very obvious we are living in different worlds

For the majority of folks out there though. Dropping $100k+ on a pickup to haul the kids to soccer practice makes zero sense.

Agreed, it blows my mind on a regular basis haha, different strokes for different folks I guess

 

[Hnthrdr]

Trying to sell some of my old handguns to save up for a nice rifle!

Good idea if you don’t need them but there are lots of options of rifles and scopes for under 1k combined that would be fantastic to hunt pretty much all NA animals with. As someone who has chased and tinkered with nice long guns, it’s not the gun that will make or break my hunts, it’s practice…

 

[Conrad101st]

The value of an education or skilled trade is going to zero eventually.

Well what would be your answer to life then?

I do like to drink beer but it doesn’t pay the mortgage and we all can’t be born to rich parents.

 

[Yaremkiv]

**potential thread derailer coming**

I think we have a duty, much more than previous generations, to pass onto our kids capital, because the value of their labor relative to the capital is going to decrease. The capital will become entrenched where it is, and the economy is going to be a competition between people with capital. So you die, leave your kids with nothing, they are destined to never have anything ever. By that logic, the dude making $500k/year would do better to still drive that $15k truck and leave the difference to his children.

As in work my whole life for my adult children and their families? What happened to raising our kids in a way that prepares them to "make it out there". Sure they can have whatever I leave behind of course. But to save the cash my wife and I can use to live our lives after sacrificing two decades of both time and money to set the foundatio for our two boys doesnt make sense to me. They can live with us as long as they want to but at 18 they're paying rent. My 13 year old already has a debit card and both the 9 and 13 year olds regularly come out and work to earn their own cash. Mind you I don't make $500k a year but even then.....

 

[Geewhiz]

it’s not the gun that will make or break my hunts, it’s practice…

Whatever man if your rifle isn't shiny and carbon fiber you don't even have a chance.

 

[Trapperkid]

Time is the other currency here. Realistically getting more than a week a year for a hunting trip is difficult especially given how bad manufacturing is with time off. Tons of positions are getting 2 weeks a year or less. Vacation and holidays are less than half of other industries. 2 weeks of vacation and like 10-12 actual holidays whereas many industries are doing 4-5 weeks of vacation and 20 bank holidays.

Please tell me which industries do I can start looking

 

[Hnthrdr]

Whatever man if your rifle isn't shiny and carbon fiber you don't even have a chance.

True, if I only had a lighter, stronger, more tricked out, more custom rifle! I would have for sure killed that BOAL!!!

 

[CorbLand]

Whatever man if your rifle isn't shiny and carbon fiber you don't even have a chance.

Last I heard, any bullet not shot out of a fully custom gun just bounces off animals.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Please tell me which industries do I can start looking

Self employment, military, Fire fighter/ police/ lots of tech jobs, I’d imagine nursing/ some medical professions as well

 

[MuleyFever]

Self employment, military, Fire fighter/ police/ lots of tech jobs, I’d imagine nursing/ some medical professions as well

Anything at a bank. My wife gets a ton of time off.

 

[CorbLand]

Self employment, military, Fire fighter/ police/ lots of tech jobs, I’d imagine nursing/ some medical professions as well

Those damn firefighters don’t know how good they have it.

To OP. Government jobs afford for lots of time off. The pay isn’t the greatest but the amount of time off you get is incredible.

 

[Geewhiz]

Last I heard, any bullet not shot out of a fully custom gun just bounces off animals.

There's truth to that, and also if its over 243 thousandths of an inch in diameter.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Oh yea self employment.. All the free time in the world that way


I know a handful of folks that hit the fires hard, and then pretty much screw off the rest of the year. Maybe build another water truck or flip a car or two. Just stay busy. Doesnt sound all that bad

 

[Jstumbaugh]

The value of an education or skilled trade is going to zero eventually.

I'm not following you on this?? Skilled trade has made a solid living for my family for a few generations now. We are far from rich but I feel comfortable. I also know that if my day job ever came to an end that I would be making money again by the next morning. I am a very driven person and am reluctant to pay someone to do something that I am more than capable of doing myself but many out there pay and pay a lot for trades. HVAC/Plumbing/Electrical. Maybe I misunderstood a specified skilled trade for the trades?

 

[CorbLand]

There's truth to that, and also if its over 243 thousandths of an inch in diameter.

So glad I am finally figuring out why I never kill animals.

 

[svivian]

Please tell me which industries do I can start looking

Utilities... Lineman or gas line operations would be a place to look.

if you are willing to move there are some great opportunities out there. Theres a few guys on here who Id bet would be willing to give you an idea of what its like.

 

[Jpsmith1]

You’ll find that deep down most guys who go on a lot of GUIDED hunts are either very selfish or very wealthy.

Sometimes both.

I used to wonder how several people on a few forums were able to go on so many hunts. It was like every time I turned around it was a grizzly hunt or a dall sheep hunt or Africa or New Mexico elk.

Then, one day I discovered that they were dentists and doctors.

True story.

Manage your expectations friend. Don’t try to keep up with the Jones’s cause you can’t afford it and your wife will likely leave you if you try. OOS hunting trips are super expensive.

Ya know, I've had these same thoughts and questions myself. Even to the point of joking about waiting on my job for the Cartels to be able to afford all the cool shit so many seem to get to do. Being a doctor or a dentist makes a ton of sense.

I've had some real conversations with my wife and have been working on plans to satisfy my need to "adventure" and her need for, ya know, a house and stuff. I think we've got some things worked out, especially now that the kids are basically grown and mostly gone.