How do you guys go on these cool hunts?

I go to Arkansas often to hunt whitetail on public land. My second and third biggest bow bucks came from there.

I sent an arrow through the brisket of the largest whitetail I’ve seen on the hoof while hunting in Arkansas.


Those hunts would be free for you essentially. Minus the time away from your family.


It’s an adventure for me because I make it one. I paid money to hunt in Wyoming by horseback for elk. It was amazing. But I have just as sticky of memories from my Arkansas public land whitetail hunts with good friends.
 
Time is the other currency here. Realistically getting more than a week a year for a hunting trip is difficult especially given how bad manufacturing is with time off. Tons of positions are getting 2 weeks a year or less. Vacation and holidays are less than half of other industries. 2 weeks of vacation and like 10-12 actual holidays whereas many industries are doing 4-5 weeks of vacation and 20 bank holidays.
 
To save on cash my buddy and I split an elk tag and all the costs from driving from the east. He’s better with the bow so I tag along as an extra set of eyes and packing out. I have a blast not being the actual hunter. We make all the decisions together and have a blast in the woods for a week. We split everything so the cost is lower.
That's an interesting take and certainly makes things a lot more manageable and easier on the pocketbook.

There's a lot of great advice on here and it all boils down to patience, budgeting and priorities. Keeping up with the Jones' isn't all it's cracked up to be, live under your means and it'll snowball to where you'll be able to hunt where you want without changing your lifestyle.

I also like the comment where there's guys paying thousands to come to Arkansas to hunt birds and other animals each year, where you can do it for pennies compared to them. And certainly don't get me wrong, I have dreams/goals of hunting out west as well, it's all about perspective as well. There's guys who live out west in great elk and deer country coming to Arkansas to hunt and some that probably chose to move from out west to Arkansas for their hunting needs/wants.
 
I need some help and I don’t know who better to ask than the guys doing it so here goes. How do you guys achieve the time freedom and the financial freedom to go on these cool hunts. I’m in Arkansas working at a factory I have no kids but I have a wife and a mortgage and I pretty much only get to hunt what’s local to me like whitetail and ducks. I’m looking for adventure.
I went to Africa for the first time last year. It really wasn't that expensive, and going with my wife made it an amazing vacation. You'd be surprised what you can do for $10k. Save for a couple years, and make it happen. My wife had such a great time she decided to hunt when we go back.
 
To save on cash my buddy and I split an elk tag and all the costs from driving from the east. He’s better with the bow so I tag along as an extra set of eyes and packing out. I have a blast not being the actual hunter. We make all the decisions together and have a blast in the woods for a week. We split everything so the cost is lower.
You pay for half of your buddies elk tag?
 
DIY hunts on public land in the Rocky Mtn west aren't crazy expensive and just take more time...to be successful though a lot of due diligence will help. Expect to drive for 16, 24, or 30 hrs depending upon where you live.

Be grateful for the opportunities you have while creating new ones.
 
For me I started out similar to you, but as time went on the desire kept burning so I did something about it. First, I did a few DIY hunts you can experience the west way cheaper that way. I saw it mentioned a side hustle; I started doing taxidermy 30 plus years ago as a side job and pushed myself to get better and better till I was making enough side money to go on a hunt every few years. The work ethic to keep grinding with a full-time gig to support the family and doing a side job can get tiring for sure. Keep pushing but family and finances should always be first.
 
Might help finding some ways to get some adventure in other ways too, that aren't as cost prohibitive as hunting. Then when budget and family allow, start making those dream hunts happen.

Get in or staying in good shape will also help.

Someone mentioned earlier a bikepacking trip to Arkansas. We have lots of great mountain bike trails, a couple of good long hiking trails, and several rivers that offer seasonal whitewater.

Plenty of adventure to tide you over for a while, if you'll just look in some other places.
 
There’s a lot of good advice in this thread. I’ll add my free advice, which is worth every penny you pay for it…

Adventure is what you make of it. There’s probably a place within an hour of you where you can go park your truck, hike a mile or two or ten, camp out, and hunt for a local species. Due to breaking my leg, I had to cancel my “local adventure hunt into the Virginia backcountry” this past year, but it’s rescheduled for this year.

What is better about killing an elk/moose than a deer? The bragging rights? The trophy on your wall? Not for me.

The extra meat? Even DIY, that’s pretty expensive meat for those of us who have to take time away from work, drive or fly halfway across the continent, pay for a tag, etc. Find someone with some deer damage permits and get the meat for practically nothing.

But, some might say, “Q, you should experience hunting out West!” Okay, I can get behind that, but I don’t have to chase expensive tags to do that. I had a perfectly wonderful upland bird hunt in Northern Montana last year. I enjoyed the spectacular landscape, caught up with a childhood friend, got to watch my friend’s dog work, missed a few birds, and didn’t have to pluck anything. It also might have been the most expensive hunt I’ve ever done, but if not, it was very close to it.

I have a rough plan to go back out West and try a DIY cow elk, wolf, and upland bird hunt this next fall. I’m sure that will be more challenging for me than going after a “trophy class bull elk” is for someone experienced. I also expect that it will be a more challenging and a more rewarding experience, for me, than paying for a guided hunt on private land would be.

With no shade of envy, jealousy, or sour grapes, I don’t admire the accomplishment of killing an animal on a guided hunt. At best, that’s a hiking and shooting accomplishment, not a hunting accomplishment, but often it’s not even that. I read these hunting stories where someone kills a trophy animal fifty yards from the camp or where the guide takes them to an area known to have trophy class animals (often scouted by trail cameras), spots the animal for them, and then all they have to do is control their nerves long enough to shoot well. I am not impressed by most of them. I am sure they had fun, but I got almost no joy out of the one guided hunt I did (apart from being with friends).

This past year, I was driving down the hill with my brother’s buck in the back of the truck, when the biggest deer I saw all season stepped over the top of a hill 200 yards away. I stopped the truck, opened the door, used the side mirror as a rest, dialed up, and killed him with one shot. I didn’t “hunt” for him. The shot was good and true, but not anything amazing. Not really a hunting or shooting accomplishment, but it’s a great memory and an experience I would not trade for any other hunting experience. I hunted “hard” for something like 29 days last year and had the most successful year I’ve had in a while, but the biggest deer I got came down to dumb luck. And I am still very happy with it! Don’t let someone steal the joy out of your local experience!

About the only time in my life when I feel God’s presence is when I am hunting. I love it. It’s a vital part of my identity. I refuse to let anyone else define it for me. And you shouldn’t either.

There’s a huge market designed to sell the “western hunting experience.” I will assume that you are a man and somehow manage to resist the ads for tampons. I am sure that with a bit of willpower and reflection, you can resist the sales pitch for this other thing you don’t need.

Of course, if you do “need” or “really, really want” to go hunting for elk or whatever, out West or wherever, then you will find a way to make it happen if you want it bad enough. Talk it over with your wife, make a realistic plan and budget, and then go do it.

If anything I wrote above sounds critical of anyone else in this thread or on this forum, I don’t intend it that way. This is my advice, based on my experience, and what is important to me.
 
baby steps.

1st rule of life. dont worry about what other people are doing. that is a key to unhappiness. there will always be people doing cooler shit. the opposite is true. give zero fox to what people think about what you are doing.

I started off small. local, cheap. then I saved my money up. made sacrifices. quit buying unneccesary gear. (1st rule)..who cares what backpack your bud just bought.

then the DIY hunt. sleeping I a tent. my first was AZ cause deer archery. skunked, but that set the tone. I did it on the cheap. out of state tag and fuel was the biggest expense. so much fun and satisfaction doing it like that. even my DIY Idaho elk hunt was not that expensive.
 
Seems like a smart way to get to go on more trips,one guy has the tag and you split the meat and cost.
It’s not all about the killing,the trip and adventure is a big deal.
Nothing wrong with that.

We rotate every year. CO OTC bull elk tag is over $800 now and we've all got young families and not a lot of play money, so we are basically splitting the tag 3 ways. It works for us. If you wanna go, you might have to get creative and make some sacrifices like hiking your legs off and freezing to death without a tag hoping your buddy gets one. All part of determining whether or not you REALLY want to go.

I do think the experience is vastly oversold these days, but we live in America and one of the great things about being American is you can hop in the truck, drive out to any national forest in the country, throw a tent up and go see if you can find some animals. You don't even need a tag or a rockslide special rifle to go do that.
 
Not knowing your personal income, knowledge base, or your desire to truly change your financial situation, if that is what is holding you back. I have worked in numerous small towns throughout the Midwest and a vast majority of people in those towns all have great ideas to become financially independent, however maybe 1% of them actually take action on those ideas. My suggestion to you if income is your major hurdle to going on adventure hunts is to identify a need in your area and exploit its ability to help you generate income! Don't lose sight along the way, spend time with your family and make your spouse feel wanted, desired, and appreciated. Happy wife makes for easier hunting trips!
 
Time and money is all that it takes. Anymore, time is the hardest one to come up with.

I will say that I wish I had learned sooner in life, just how much money there was to be made. Dont let yourself get stuck working somewhere just because its comfy.


Guess what I'm trying to say. You need a gopro, some cool tattoos, and a few followers to influence. That alone should pave the road to your hunting adventures across the country
 
I hunt what I want, when I want, and in fact last year a family member/close friend or myself has a license in every single big game season in Co.. 350" bulls and 200"bucks were taken the same will be true this year.. Did not even hunt one lo tag my daughter had for antelopes on a 20k private ranch as well yeah they are antelopes..

Everyone wants a quick fix or answer but its not that simple...

For me it was generational commitment that allows me to get LO tags from friends (at low cost or for free) as well as have the time to find what some folks would call trophy animals on public land.. Every one of my high school friends had to move to a "big city".. Now they all want to move back but can't afford it...

Weak minded folks are sayin they are leaving Colorado it will be the opposite for me I will be here hunting big critters and fighting the fight.. I guess I got more than enough pics of past years gov tag bucks on the hoof to prove that point...

My grandfather lived in giant buck country same with my dad and on to me.. Doing all I can to make sure my daughters have that same opportunity if they so choose. These places you are not going to come in and work any normal job then get a house and settle with out considerable outside finical resources..

Once properties are paid for, no vehicle loan, no cc debt, and the ability to carry little to no other debt allows for such things. I also live in the smallest house on the block but its been paid off for over 15 years.. Drive a 15 year old Toyota as I dont need anything more, SXS is a 2014, heck even my bow is over 6 years old at this point... With that said I am heading to Europe and Paris again here in a couple weeks...

I see so many folks w a 80k truck payment, n 4k house loan, just bought a new 5k rifle, and saying it is hard to make ends meet and still hunt lol. Yeah ya think so?? Or dont chase material things unless you want to sacrifice for said things... I chase days and have forgotten far more "best" days than most will ever get..

What I am sayin is you could move somewhere ya like and spend a generation or 3 in the trenches, building a community, and making generational friends = then the opportunities will open up.... Fair to say most folks are not willing to make that type of commitment.....

Good luck w your journey and where it takes ya..
 
With no shade of envy, jealousy, or sour grapes, I don’t admire the accomplishment of killing an animal on a guided hunt. At best, that’s a hiking and shooting accomplishment, not a hunting accomplishment, but often it’s not even that. I read these hunting stories where someone kills a trophy animal fifty yards from the camp or where the guide takes them to an area known to have trophy class animals (often scouted by trail cameras), spots the animal for them, and then all they have to do is control their nerves long enough to shoot well. I am not impressed by most of them. I am sure they had fun, but I got almost no joy out of the one guided hunt I did (apart from being with friends).
Amen brother!
 
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