Has the Ruger American Gen 2 been out long enough to be considered “proven”?

[BLJ]

Factory Tikka standard grip cut, heated and bent to fit the factory grip.
JB Welded in place.
Extended the bottom of the grip out about an inch.
Not a great solution but better than factory.

@Shortschaf

 

[Weldor]

With all the 3d printers out there I'm amazed that there is not a niche market for these. Grips, stocks, etc.

 

[Kyguy]

Bolt on or snap-on grips I could see with a 3D printer. I don't know that you can 3D print a stock that would stand up to the use?

 

[Shortschaf]

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Factory Tikka standard grip cut, heated and bent to fit the factory grip.
JB Welded in place.
Extended the bottom of the grip out about an inch.
Not a great solution but better than factory.

@Shortschaf

The timing of your post is awesome haha.
I have a tikka vertical grip currently in a half-baked state trying to do exactly what you've got.
Been mulling over how I'll adhere it. Thanks for posting your results.
Agree with others that a snap-on 3D printed grip would be most ideal here. Better if Ruger just made a stock that wasn't shaped like a stick

 

[Kyguy]

Now y'all got me thinking about one of those Tikka grips on a Boyd's classic stock. I like a tighter grip angle.

 

[nettereo16]

The timing of your post is awesome haha.
I have a tikka vertical grip currently in a half-baked state trying to do exactly what you've got.
Been mulling over how I'll adhere it. Thanks for posting your results.
Agree with others that a snap-on 3D printed grip would be most ideal here. Better if Ruger just made a stock that wasn't shaped like a stick

Bow grips use some really strong double sided tape adhesive tape, perhaps you could do something like that.
Keep us updated on your project! I would definitely put one on my Ruger stock.

 

[BLJ]

The timing of your post is awesome haha.
I have a tikka vertical grip currently in a half-baked state trying to do exactly what you've got.
Been mulling over how I'll adhere it. Thanks for posting your results.
Agree with others that a snap-on 3D printed grip would be most ideal here. Better if Ruger just made a stock that wasn't shaped like a stick

When I said JB Weld earlier, I meant a JB Weld branded epoxy.
I’ve used this stuff quite a bit with good success.
Scuff both surfaces and apply a bead on the inside and outside.
It can be pried off, but I don’t think a normal hunting drop or fall would bust it.
And if it does, you still have the factory grip in place.

 

[The Guide]

Unpopular opinion...

Factory Ruger Americans if it had better stock ergonomics and stiffness > Factory Tikka models. Dollar for dollar the Ruger American offers a better value for most shooters. By the time you add on the typical or required parts and pieces to a Tikka to make it equal to stock RA G2, you're looking at $600 vs $900. That $300 difference is a case of ammo (depending upon cartridge) and a lot more practice for minimum accuracy gain/loss from the average shooter.

Jay

 

[FunkEyeMissed]

The timing of your post is awesome haha.
I have a tikka vertical grip currently in a half-baked state trying to do exactly what you've got.
Been mulling over how I'll adhere it. Thanks for posting your results.
Agree with others that a snap-on 3D printed grip would be most ideal here. Better if Ruger just made a stock that wasn't shaped like a stick

Anything against chassis’ or do you just prefer the tradition with vertical fore grip style? There’s quite a few affordable chassis out there for the Ruger

 

[Kyguy]

Alright guys what changes when we throw Bergaras into the mix? Seems like Bergara vs Tikka would be a better comparison and long term move than the Rugers.

I want to like Bergara, but after the ridiculousness I had to deal with over a Wolf V2 that was absolute trash, brand new out of the box, I can't bring myself to buy anything BPI/CVA/Bergara. They wouldn't put a new barrel on a $175 rifle that literally wouldn't group anything and broke a couple of ramrods trying to load it, but when I brought it up on their sponsored Facebook muzzleloader group, one of their marketing guys sends me $200+ worth of Powerbelts. That don't shoot. How's that begin to make sense? If they won't take care of the cheap stuff, you can't think that they want to take care of the expensive stuff. They do a good job of suppressing any negative info about their stuff. If you dig though, you'll find stories of rifles that just plain don't shoot, many of which are .308. Again, how can you put out a higher dollar .308 that doesn't shoot at all?

 

[BLJ]

Unpopular opinion...

Factory Ruger Americans if it had better stock ergonomics and stiffness > Factory Tikka models. Dollar for dollar the Ruger American offers a better value for most shooters. By the time you add on the typical or required parts and pieces to a Tikka to make it equal to stock RA G2, you're looking at $600 vs $900. That $300 difference is a case of ammo (depending upon cartridge) and a lot more practice for minimum accuracy gain/loss from the average shooter.

Jay

Ooooooooooo.
It’s gonna heat up quick in here now.

 

[coyotekilla]

I was trying hard to justify a tikka 223 a couple months ago
800ish dollars to get the cheapest one threaded. All that for a slower barreled action that isnt stainless...

Then I found a local used Ruger A gen2 for $400 and for that kind of price its a winner.
Takes ar mags and it feeds/ejects stiff but 100%
Shoots 1.2MOA with the first cheap 55vmax ammo I tried
Comes threaded in 16" or 20" lengths. Not stainless but is cerekoted.
Stock design is poor, but its light and doesnt appear to hold the rifle back for accuracy. I actually have the Magpul stock for it, but use the factory instead for the lighter weight

It is exactly the truck gun I wanted. Only real gripe is there is not a 2lb vertical grip stock option on the market currently

Wait till you chassis it. I have 3 ruger Americans only 1 in the factory stock is the 300 aac ranch cause its a short range gun. The other 2 are .5 to .75 moa rigs.

 

[Shortschaf]

Anything against chassis’ or do you just prefer the tradition with vertical fore grip style? There’s quite a few affordable chassis out there for the Ruger

Not anti-chassis technically, I am just after something with vertical or pistol grip around 32oz

Only Ultradyne makes a chassis like that, but they cost $450 without a buttstock. And the buttstock is AR style, which are either heavier or don't lend themselves well to shooting rear supported.

 

[BLJ]

Not anti-chassis technically, I am just after something with vertical or pistol grip around 32oz

Only Ultradyne makes a chassis like that, but they cost $450 without a buttstock. And the buttstock is AR style, which are either heavier or don't lend themselves well to shooting rear supported.

Maybe we should start a thread recommending that a site sponsor consider the possibility of making an affordable, lightweight, carbon fiber stock with a vertical grip for the Ruger American?

I wonder if they would sell????

 

[Kyguy]

The "problem" is that 99% of Ruger American owners wouldn't spend $600 on just a stock..... if they would, they'd being buying $1300 rifles instead of $600 rifles. Just because one person wants something, doesn't mean that lots of people want it or would buy it.

 

[BLJ]

The "problem" is that 99% of Ruger American owners wouldn't spend $600 on just a stock..... if they would, they'd being buying $1300 rifles instead of $600 rifles. Just because one person wants something, doesn't mean that lots of people want it or would buy it.

S

Thread 'What rifle is missing stock options?'

Nov 9, 2023

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We value the Rokslide's opinions and desires so we wanted to throw this discussion out there to you first. We're planning our 2024 project board and we have our own thoughts and list but want to hear from you!

What rifle do you want a new carbon fiber stock for that doesn't have enough options in the aftermarket world?

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I was referring to this thread with my previous post.
RA’s have been mentioned more than once.

Since Tikka has started threading their barrels that’s one aspect where the Ruger had an advantage that it no longer does.
But until Tikka starts having the cartridge options that Ruger does, I believe the need for a good stock for the RA will be there.

 

[coyotekilla]

Not anti-chassis technically, I am just after something with vertical or pistol grip around 32oz

Only Ultradyne makes a chassis like that, but they cost $450 without a buttstock. And the buttstock is AR style, which are either heavier or don't lend themselves well to shooting rear supported.

You mean like that 1? That's a g2 predator in 6.5 grendel with a Indian creek mofo chassis. Uses ar mags, grips, buttstock. Full arca under the forend.

 

[Shortschaf]

You mean like that 1? That's a g2 predator in 6.5 grendel with a Indian creek mofo chassis. Uses ar mags, grips, buttstock. Full arca under the forend.

Yes ultradyne looks functionally identical to the Indian Creek Chassis, but as I understand it a few ounces lighter. Maybe it isnt. Either way, the drawbacks of cost and ar buttstocks remain.

 

[roosiebull]

Tell me why the gen 2 American sucks and I should buy a tikka instead. Other than the typical “smoother action and better trigger”.

If you are leaning towards a gen 2 RA, just get it. You will either like it or regret not just getting a tikka. If you are fine with a crappy trigger and stock (tikka stocks are ok but nothing to write home about, but certainly better than the ruger’s) then just get it.

It’s a weird concept to me picking a ruger over a tikka, but I have shamelessly got on the tikka bandwagon, after buying and trying several different rifles.

I know myself well enough, if I got a RA gen2, I would have to buy a new trigger and stock, and it would still be a RA, and I would have more into it than I would want for the niche it fills

 

[Deere_Man]

I like that Ruger and Howa both chamber for 22 ARC. This seems like a better way to get an entry level 22 cal rifle already capable of shooting 88gr bullets without modification
/upgrades and also faster than a 223 Rem.