Gunnison CO public lands closed

[Billinsd]

Bingo it's amazing people can't comprehend that the government is seeing how easy it is to strip our rights for the "better good." Curious to see what happens in the future with all this.

There will be lawsuits for sure.

 

[S.Clancy]

I believe the reservations are sovereign nations and live by some of their own rules. Probably can do it without legal issue on their tribal lands.

I'm assuming they can't stop you from driving on a state or federal highway thru said lands.

 

[dihardhunter]

This officially affects my NR Colorado app strategy for this fall - had a decade worth of points and was planning to be hunting deer in the GB. Negative ghostrider.

 

[5MilesBack]

Part of the problem is that we have too many people in our nation that are willing to give up their rights, freedoms, and liberties. And that's fine, but they're also willing to give up mine as well, and that's not fine.

 

[Ratbeetle]

There will be lawsuits for sure.

And there should be. I don't care what convoluted "public safety" garbage excuses they are using, these closures are morally wrong and extremely questionable legally.

If I was independetly wealthy with the means to take on a legal battle, you can bet I'd be cruising for a fine right now.

 

[Scoutman]

This officially affects my NR Colorado app strategy for this fall - had a decade worth of points and was planning to be hunting deer in the GB. Negative ghostrider.

That's why I didn't burn my deer points this year, uncertainty.

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[Billinsd]

If I was independetly wealthy with the means to take on a legal battle, you can bet I'd be cruising for a fine right now.

Great minds think a like!!

 

[Poser]

I’ve read some arguments back and forth and they do seem to hinge on closures selective to a group of people I.e. you can’t close public lands selectively to NRs anymore than You can close them to black people and not white people. That being said, from what I know about the San Juan County closures, the USFS and the BLM have been supportive of the sheriff’s actions. The USFS even stepped in further and closed a FS road to all access since it was the primary means of backcountry access just South of the San Juan county line. They are hinging the closures on a matter of public health with regards to people traveling from elsewhere to recreate in these respective counties.

 

[ColoradoV]

Yea tell Wyoming you can’t close say wilderness areas to non res and see how that goes for ya...

Be responsible if that is possible for you as this all will pass might take a month might take 6 and when it is all over non res will still be locked out of Wyoming wilderness...

 

[Doc Holliday]

What if you have to drop a hot pile?

 

[Lawnboi]

Bingo it's amazing people can't comprehend that the government is seeing how easy it is to strip our rights for the "better good." Curious to see what happens in the future with all this.

It’s not even that people are not seeing it. It’s that they are demanding they be taken.

 

[BuzzH]

Yea tell Wyoming you can’t close say wilderness areas to non res and see how that goes for ya...

Be responsible if that is possible for you as this all will pass might take a month might take 6 and when it is all over non res will still be locked out of Wyoming wilderness...

You don't know what you're talking about...try keeping things in context. You aren't locked out of any wilderness in Wyoming. What you cant do is hunt the States Wildlife Resources within designated wilderness without a guide or a resident friend. But, you still have all the access you want to enter a wilderness.

By law and Act of Congress, Wyoming can, and does discriminate against NR hunters via price, license allocation, and where you pursue said wildlife. But they aren't limiting your ability, at all, to use wilderness 365 24/7.

Like it or not, the facts are what they are.

 

[MattB]

It’s not even that people are not seeing it. It’s that they are demanding they be taken.

I look at it more that there are too many people who are too ignorant, too selfish, too "patriotic" to do the right thing, so the government is taking extraordinary steps to make sure they remain ignorant/selfish/patriotic in a more confined area.

 

[Lawnboi]

I look at it more that there are too many people who are too ignorant, too selfish, too "patriotic" to do the right thing, so the government is taking extraordinary steps to make sure they remain ignorant/selfish/patriotic in a more confined area.

Id agree that there are people on both sides of the spectrum.

 

[Poser]

I look at it more that there are too many people who are too ignorant, too selfish, too "patriotic" to do the right thing, so the government is taking extraordinary steps to make sure they remain ignorant/selfish/patriotic in a more confined area.

The other thing to keep in mind here is that these are closures enacted by local sheriffs of locales largely dependent up public land recreation for revenue. If you think these counties are going to permanently close access to outsiders just to say “screw you, it’s ours”, you’re crazy. Does any person actually go to Gunnison or Silverton for any reason other than recreation?

 

[Savage99]

Part of the problem is that we have too many people in our nation that are willing to give up their rights, freedoms, and liberties. And that's fine, but they're also willing to give up mine as well, and that's not fine.

Ben Franklin and I agree with you.

Anybody know what the fine is if caught violating the county orders? Turkey season is almost here.


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[brsnow]

Ben Franklin and I agree with you.

Anybody know what the fine is if caught violating the county orders? Turkey season is almost here.


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For gunnison I believe $5000

 

[5MilesBack]

Yea tell Wyoming you can’t close say wilderness areas to non res and see how that goes for ya...

Be responsible if that is possible for you as this all will pass might take a month might take 6 and when it is all over non res will still be locked out of Wyoming wilderness...

I've packed throughout the WY wilderness many times as a NR. As have many others. The WY wilderness is NOT closed to NR's.

 

[KurtR]

I'm assuming they can't stop you from driving on a state or federal highway thru said lands.

the one tribe here has talked about setting up toll booths on the state hi way.

 

[Bubblehide]

I have no doubt that closing public lands to some people but not all people is highly illegal. But I seriously doubt it will change anytime soon.

Considering the Spanish flu went around the world for 2 years; that modern transportation has allowed this bug to progress the infected rate at a faster timeline, I don't think this bug will last 2 years. But it could. However, I seriously doubt we will be completely done with this in 6 months. I certainly hope we are done with this in 6 months or sooner, but I do have serious doubts that we will. But I do expect that some, if not many of the restrictions will be eased in 6 months or less.

But as for myself, I just don't see myself traveling through states, making any more than one gas stop during this. I don't see myself stoping to buy fast food, or to go restaurant food... I just simply do not want to fall ill away from home during these times. I prefer to be near my medical provider where I personally know several doctors; near my provider in which I have 2 seperate comprehensive policies...

I get that our rights are being violated, and I am not at happy with that. I am sure that the issue will go through the court system and result in a rights favorable decision. However, I also believe that our laws, even our constitution will be changed down the road to look legalize the restrictions being implemented. After all, a very very large portion of our society is scared to death of C19, and as more die, and more details emerge about the miserable death related to this, more fear will be generated, and people will vote for changes our of fear.

I also think some thing on the opposite side of the coin will also change.

Time will tell.