Government Checks

[elkduds]

You have a distorted view assuming most state governments managing anything better than the feds.

My point is that 50 solutions are going to fit the states' needs better than one solution. What is ideal in FL could be wasteful and ineffective in MT. Since you mentioned it, name one state whose current crisis is better understood by the federal gov't than by its own state legislators.

 

[wapitibob]

Looks like my Trump Tag money is in jeopardy.

 

[jfs82]

Looks like my Trump Tag money is in jeopardy.

For now, this was a first try. McConell even said he knew this wouldnt go through as they had written it but 'had to try since they have majority' which seems awful dumb considering.

 

[VTJ]

the dems once again are playing politics while this country is in a bind …. the Repub's are down some Senate members right now and the dems are exploiting that …. I do believe this will get ironed out, but when and hopefully not at this countries throat ...

Democrats block coronavirus lifeline stimulus in despicable partisan maneuver

It should have been 100%. Every Senator on Capitol Hill should have been able to recognize the dire straits America

noqreport.com

 

[BFR]

Just politicians doing the same thing as always. Bipartisanship only in what benefits themselves.

 

[Squincher]

Agree. One more reason to be happy my wife I are over the threshold.

Futher more i hope they add similar stipulations to companies getting bailouts. However we know the answer to that. We will bailing out airlines that took no Initiative to build cash reserves and instead bought back their stocks.

I read somewhere over the weekend that President Trump wants to take equity in any company that receives a bail out.

 

[VTJ]

Trump wouldnt get 'equity, but the government may need to ^^^

Trump Says U.S. Bailouts May Require Equity Stakes, Buyback Bans

(Bloomberg) -- President Donald Trump said he’d support the U.S. taking an equity stake in companies that receive coronavirus-related aid from taxpayers and prohibiting firms from increasing executive bonuses and stock buybacks.“We don’t want that,” Trump said Thursday at a White House news...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[jfs82]

hmmm. government owned equity in private businesses... sounds... ummm... anyone care to fill in the blank?

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Interesting to see positions shift to JUSTIFY taking government money. So really you guys only hate handouts when your not getting them.


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im hoping there is a way to NOT take the handout and therefore not be on the hook tax wise when that rolls around. I’m not out of work so an extra thousand bucks while it would be cool, isn’t going to change my life or relieve any sort of hardship, I’d probably just spend it on hunting stuff. I’d rather just not get it and not be on the hook for it later.

 

[flatlanderhuffandpuff]

I keep seeing people say they don't want it now because they don't want to be on the hook later.

Haven't you guys figured out its just free money? It's funny money. Monopoly cash.

Why not send 8K to each family? 15K? We are 23Trillion dollars in debt, whats another 4?

 

[VTJ]

the equity is one way of a promise to pay off a loan... not enough details in any reporting Ive seen to say what the idea was behind it .....

and again the dems are screwing up the Senate process by putting trash in the bill that has nothing to do with relief or the virus .. all was fine until that pie eyed witch Pelosi stuck her nose in where it dosnt belong ....

Mnuchin: Trump admin determined to support American businesses, workers

He reiterated that any small business with fewer than 500 employees is eligible for a loan amounting to two months of payroll and some overhead.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Trial153]

If fox is your primary news source your no better then somebody whose primary source is cnn. Same shit different smell

 

[VTJ]

as usual, YOU have nothing ... the Democrats are screwing around with the lives and the welfare of the American public, being the dem/lib that YOU are , you're fine with that ... the DEMOCRATS are trying to push crap into this that has nothing to do with the virus, this is showing once again the dems dont care about people's lives, all they care about is the DEM party and what they can get out of it ... in the words of a dem "Never let a crisis go to waste" .... elect a democrat, and destroy this country ... smh ...

Dem Rep. Told Colleagues Coronavirus Bill Is ‘Tremendous Opportunity to Restructure Things to Fit Our Vision’ | National Review

Pelosi worked to scupper the coronavirus relief package after James Clyburn said that the bill was “a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision.”

www.nationalreview.com

 

[cgasner1]

I wonder why they don’t just cancel the waiting week for Unemployment and bump it up a certain percent that would cover most people other than small business owners which I’m sure would be a fairly easy solution and the two he money is going in the right direction


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[Trial153]

National Review , Fox and anyone see a trend here. No different than if some one was cheery picking CNN and the huffington post looking for validation for their preconceptions.


How about we look at some reporting that has less of a slant and if someone was to actually read the complete report they would see that as usual both crappy parties are at fault playing the same crappy game they always do, with everything.

For example ....

Mnuchin, Schumer say coronavirus rescue package deal very close

Both sides hope for a Tuesday vote.

www.politico.com

 

[BFR]

IF they get a bill passed to “help” the masses it will IMO be so full of non related BS as to be detrimental to us in the long run.
Can anyone tell me HOW in the H3LL is forgiving student loan debt, election security funding,collective bargaining powers for unions, airline emissions or wind/solar tax credits are even remotely connected to this pandemic relief package? Just more political crap!

 

[Trial153]

IF they get a bill passed to “help” the masses it will IMO be so full of non related BS as to be detrimental to us in the long run.
Can anyone tell me HOW in the H3LL is forgiving student loan debt, election security funding,collective bargaining powers for unions, airline emissions or wind/solar tax credits are even remotely connected to this pandemic relief package? Just more political crap!

lots of trash i agree. Why not list the trash from the other side as well so we all get a real picture of the disfuncation of both parties that are included in the bill? They there for the viewing if you look for them.

 

[HuntHarder]

I wonder why they don’t just cancel the waiting week for Unemployment and bump it up a certain percent that would cover most people other than small business owners which I’m sure would be a fairly easy solution and the two he money is going in the right direction


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Sounds logical. Problem is, many in the Senate want to tack on new regulations and other items to further their agenda.

 

[HuntHarder]

lots of trash i agree. Why not list the trash from the other side as well so we all get a real picture of the disfuncation of both parties that are included in the bill? They there for the viewing if you look for them.

Do me a solid and list them out for me please.

 

[Trial153]

Do me a solid and list them out for me please.

Off the top of my head, from what i seen earlier.
Abstinence funding, a Moratorium on small business loans for nonprofits. A provision that allows the Treasury secretary to award funds I anonymously to corporations without public disclosures for six months.
Also provisons that allow a waiver for caps on executive compensation with public funds.

There was a few more that escape me without looking at details online..

In any event like the stuff that was listed correctly by another poster there was more then enough crap to go around from both parties.