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Brendan
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From what I can tell, the frame issues didn't affect the 2014's did they? I'll give it a once over next time I can, but that's sounding like the only major thing to be aware of.
I think the northern new England explains every one of your issues. Haven't seen any vehicle that makes it through that crap unscathed. That 6 months of salt slush destroys everything.Sounds like you are doing it...seems like a good move. I figure a used vehicle with a known history is a totally different animal than a random used vehicle anyway, and if its a good deal then its a no-brainer. I'm no fanboy of these and I think the reputation for reliability is overblown, leftover from the pre-tacoma and gen1 days, but most seem to be good trucks. We had early and moid-90's toyota trucks that were great, and both got replaced with gen2 tacomas. Between the two we found some common themes in needing work on them, although we each had other issues too. In no particular order:
A/C went out on both of ours at about 60,000 miles. Other friends also had theirs go out.leaf springs are simply a poor design. We both had recall fixes on leaf springs early-on, and then proceeded to break several sets of them. My 06 I went through 4 sets of leaf springs. My wifes 3 sets. I have numerous friends who drive tacomas and most had leaf spring issues at some point. Note, I mean we BROKE leaf springs, I am not talking about the squeak.frame rust was definitely an issue, although we live in Northern new england where the vehicle is caked in frozen salt-slush for 6 months out of the year. Toyota replaced both our frames under their recall....still havent worked out the math on that, but appreciated that. Brake lines, etc were extra.I had the front differential go bad on mine--broken gear or something, had to replace it.We both had rust issues on the steering rack that needed replacedMy wifes needed head gasket seal replaced at about 130,000 milesMine needed the steering column u joint replaced at about 120000 milesI want to say there was another relatively major issue with one, but cant recall what it was. In short, they are pretty reliable vehicles, but the "just gas/oil it and it'll go forever" thing is a myth as far as my experience has borne out. Luckily the Ac, leaf springs are pretty cheap fixes in the scheme of things, and it seems most folks dont have the other major issues. I certainly would not avoid them, any company kicks out a turd once in a while and toyota seems to do so less than some others.
My vehicle I sold at 160,000 miles after I got a bigger boat and needed a larger tow vehicle. My wifes had to be towed away at a little over 200k miles. She replaced it with a newer tacoma which she likes.
I get what your saying and I agree that Toyota isnt the "best and only vehicle one should own" but they are still better than most everything. I do think that other manufactures have increased quality and are building things to match what Toyota has been doing for 20 years. When Toyota started making most of their pickups, nobody else was doing what they did. That has now changed.Possible, but I dont see it quite that way. For the most part my opinions are informed by comparing new england vehicles to other new england vehicles, so I dont think its fair to say Im comparing apples to oranges. It would not surprise me to learn that hwy dept’s are using more-corrosive stuff and more of it than in the past, and that explains why our newer vehicles rusted away faster than older trucks. However, I dont understand how salt corrosion would explain more frequent broken leaf springs compared to other similar local vehicles, nor how it would explain internal problems with differential or engine seals that other local vehicles havent had. I’m not at all suggesting they are worse than other similar vehicles, my only point is to say that they are not in some other category of vehicle that simply isnt subject to repairs or issues the way some folks seem to believe.
Regardless, I think they are good trucks, I just dont see the reputation and “toyota, and everything else is junk” brand loyalty, which seems closer to cult fervor in some cases, matching the reality that I have seen. Thats all. I’d own another toyota in a heartbeat if I thought it fit me best. We may be pretty much on the same page as far as that goes.
Agree, except I would argue that rather than everyone else catching up to toyota, that they met in the middle, because my experience is toyota durability/reliability is not as good as it was 20 years ago.….I do think that other manufactures have increased quality and are building things to match what Toyota has been doing for 20 years. When Toyota started making most of their pickups, nobody else was doing what they did. That has now changed.
I don't know what you've been reading but these 2006+ Tacomas were the beginning of the end of the Toyota Quality myth.They are solid, you will get 200k out of it easy. Issues? The only issues on the second gens were.
- Wheel bearings, for whatever reason, these models were subject to wheel bearing replacements.
- Temperature gauge would go out (hot solder disconnect)
- Paint was shit, it will go eventually clearcoat
- AC units would go out
I did the OME Dakar leaf pack and removed the 3rd leaf for, what I think is perfect spring rate along with Bilstein 5100 rear shocks. Rode level with OME 883 coils and 5100s with no preload.I'm a big fan of my 2010, at 100k the only thing it's needed beyond regular fluids is a tension pulley.
I will say it's horrifically undersprung in the back. My original leaf spring pack looked like a handlebar moustache. I got new leaf packs last year free from a dealership through a TSB or recall. The new leaf packs aren't any better. I still hit the bump stops hard with just a few hundred pounds in the bed.
In a few years when the TSB leaf packs are completely clapped out I'll probably replace them with some aftermarket old man emu or deaver pack. I keep kicking that down the road because it will probably be a whole can of worms to check brake line lengths and drive shaft angles when the time comes.