I really like 7-08. I feel like spomer talks about hunting with his 7-08 for quite a few things. And i think he's taken elk with 25-06.I have to give Spomer a little credit. He does talk highly of the 7-08 and 243 and periodically using lower recoil rifles for better shot placement. From the stuff I've heard from him, he still prefers a 7mm RM for elk and moose, but he makes it seem like it's more of his preference and not an absolute. JVB pushes Barnes bullets, browning rifles, Leupold scopes and bigger is better making it sound like nothing else works. That's why I've moved more towards unsponsored podcasts like Exo and Mindful Hunter for a little more unbiased information.