Experience at Shoot2Hunt

[Cliff Gray]

Not looking to push my content here, but figured this is the crowd that would be interested in this one. A bit longwinded, so just start at 2x speed

Great class. I learned a lot. It will change the way I do a lot of things.

I think everyone in the course was active here on rokslide or at least a member. Although I think anyone across the experience spectrum would enjoy the class, I was impressed by the overall competence of the group. Lots of folks that take their shooting and hunting seriously.

 

[huntnful]

Listened to it in podcast form this morning. Good stuff!

 

[Nine Banger]

I listened to it this morning on the way to work, Cliff.

Thanks for posting.

It was a pleasure shooting with you.

 

[RockAndSage]

Not looking to push my content here, but figured this is the crowd that would be interested in this one. A bit longwinded, so just start at 2x speed

Great class. I learned a lot. It will change the way I do a lot of things.

I think everyone in the course was active here on rokslide or at least a member. Although I think anyone across the experience spectrum would enjoy the class, I was impressed by the overall competence of the group. Lots of folks that take their shooting and hunting seriously.

Your point about "not fighting it" was especially good, and important. It's amazing how many guys will pay an instructor of any kind, yet resist the instruction based on what they already "know".

 

[T_Widdy]

Great review Cliff! That was a fun week!

 

[mtnwrunner]

Good listen.

Randy

 

[Gstew1930]

Good review Cliff. it was nice meeting you.

 

[Jesse Jaymes]

If you are NOT an influencer and get the Homie Hook Up....isn't this a $3400 class and 600 rounds of ammo?

 

[colby12]

If you are NOT an influencer and get the Homie Hook Up....isn't this a $3400 class and 600 rounds of ammo?

I’m a nobody that doesn’t fit either description and paid $3400 or $3500(I don’t remember what my deposit was, it was for last years class). Was required 1k rounds of .223 and then another 150 of the hunting rifle.

 

[Jesse Jaymes]

I’m a nobody that doesn’t fit either description and paid $3400 or $3500(I don’t remember what my deposit was, it was for last years class). Was required 1k rounds of .223 and then another 150 of the hunting rifle.

And? What was your take away?

I've competed in smaller/local long range steel matches. Shot in the top 3rd every time. Beat a few national named people.

But I for sure don't know everything. I am savvy with my Ap, environmental factors, ballistics, etc. I have access to a phenomenal range out to 1 mile.

Just not sure there's $3400 in Bang for the Buck (get it) for a person like me in this class?

That's a SHIT TON of money in my opinion

 

[Dave_S]

I’ll start by saying, I have NOT been to this class.

Ok so a quick Google shows a that the going price for 2 day classes for “long range shooting” is like 1000 bucks. Pretty sure this is a 5 days class and I believe lodging and meals are included?

But dude, it’s America, you’re free to spend your money how you want. You think it’s a rip-off or that you’re already good enough that you won’t improve? Then simply don’t go.

I think if you look around here, you’re going to find plenty of non-influencers giving overwhelmingly positive feedback about the course.


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[colby12]

And? What was your take away?

I've competed in smaller/local long range steel matches. Shot in the top 3rd every time. Beat a few national named people.

But I for sure don't know everything. I am savvy with my Ap, environmental factors, ballistics, etc. I have access to a phenomenal range out to 1 mile.

Just not sure there's $3400 in Bang for the Buck (get it) for a person like me in this class?

That's a SHIT TON of money in my opinion

For me, and my money, it was worth every bit of it. Did I know that going in? No did not. I have never done a shooting course or competed. I also have no desire to. I also would not go out on my own and shoot that much in a week with that much intent.

The course is not for everyone. The price is driven by the level of instruction provided. Instructor competence, proficiency, and the ability to tailor those to each individual in the class is a skill and was demonstrated there. If you’re genuinely curious about going to the course and want a breakdown from me, message me. Cliff did a decent job with his review and Jay from Mindful Hunter did as well. Jay was in my class.

At the end of the day I would pay for it again to learn something I am not an expert in from someone who I would say is as close to an expert as you’re going to find.

 

[Cliff Gray]

It is impossible to assess what the class is worth to each individual. As I mentioned in the video - relative to 90% of what hunters blow their money on the class is providing way more value per $. The only thing that compares or beats it, especially for the newest hunters, is going to be getting out hunting (tags, diy expenses, hunting access, guided hunts, all of it).

As for strictly building applicable-to-hunting shooting skills, no comparison. the caveat is if you go into it thinking you are an ultimate master with little to learn, you probably will leave the class unsatisfied with your spend or just frustrated

 

[mt terry d]

And? What was your take away?

I've competed in smaller/local long range steel matches. Shot in the top 3rd every time. Beat a few national named people.

But I for sure don't know everything. I am savvy with my Ap, environmental factors, ballistics, etc. I have access to a phenomenal range out to 1 mile.

Just not sure there's $3400 in Bang for the Buck (get it) for a person like me in this class?

That's a SHIT TON of money in my opinion

I believe it's fair to say it's a shooting class to make you a better/more efficient killer of game,
not a long range class.

I'd venture if you're not interested in increasing your proficiency in killing game, figure what a
week's stay at a ranch eating great food is worth to you.

 

[Rolando]

Thanks for the review. I'm sorry you had to put up with Marlin.

 

[SloppyJ]

It was a pleasure getting to know you and shooting with you. We had some epic groups on those long range rock shoots and even more laughs over the week.

I'm just a regular dude and I shared the same experience as outlined in Cliff's video. Hell, I didn't even know who Cliff was until the last day riding back to camp in the back of the truck when he was sharing that info and I had been talking to him all week as we shot next to each other. He's nice enough to even help throw my brass back that went his way after every drill. He's about as down to earth as it gets. Throwing shade his way as an "influencer" is short sighted insinuating that he got different treatment or special perks. I promise you he ran his ass to the truck and back and slept in the hangar with some of us.

Everyone is going to get something different out of the class. It depends on your attitude, your ego, and your effort. It's information overload from the get go and there's tons of information being thrown around the entire time. The learning comes in many different delivery methods which is something I really enjoyed. I'm very data driven. With a science background, I enjoyed the way the information was presented and conveyed through doing and experimenting.

I really don't see how you could leave there and say that you didn't grow as a shooter/sportsman and learn something. There's definitely no way you leave and say you didn't laugh or have fun. Some might leave a little more offended than others but that's just because their skin wasn't thick enough.

 

[Gstew1930]

It was a pleasure getting to know you and shooting with you. We had some epic groups on those long range rock shoots and even more laughs over the week.

I'm just a regular dude and I shared the same experience as outlined in Cliff's video. Hell, I didn't even know who Cliff was until the last day riding back to camp in the back of the truck when he was sharing that info and I had been talking to him all week as we shot next to each other. He's nice enough to even help throw my brass back that went his way after every drill. He's about as down to earth as it gets. Throwing shade his way as an "influencer" is short sighted insinuating that he got different treatment or special perks. I promise you he ran his ass to the truck and back and slept in the hangar with some of us.

Everyone is going to get something different out of the class. It depends on your attitude, your ego, and your effort. It's information overload from the get go and there's tons of information being thrown around the entire time. The learning comes in many different delivery methods which is something I really enjoyed. I'm very data driven. With a science background, I enjoyed the way the information was presented and conveyed through doing and experimenting.

I really don't see how you could leave there and say that you didn't grow as a shooter/sportsman and learn something. There's definitely no way you leave and say you didn't laugh or have fun. Some might leave a little more offended than others but that's just because their skin wasn't thick enough.

^^^^^^100% accurate. My skin wasn't thick enough for the cactus though

 

[Braaap]

And? What was your take away?

I've competed in smaller/local long range steel matches. Shot in the top 3rd every time. Beat a few national named people.

But I for sure don't know everything. I am savvy with my Ap, environmental factors, ballistics, etc. I have access to a phenomenal range out to 1 mile.

Just not sure there's $3400 in Bang for the Buck (get it) for a person like me in this class?

That's a SHIT TON of money in my opinion

S2HU is not a long range class. Based on what you wrote it sounds like you’re pretty good at long range shooting. The title of the course is pretty accurate and I would be shocked if you didn’t come away from it a far better shooter when it comes to hunting. I’m a fairly experienced hunter and do a good amount of shooting compared to the average hunter and I came away from the class with the feeling that even if the cost was $1-2k higher it would have been well worth it!

The value for me was the coaching and reps in all the different positions and the environment Form provides, meaning he applies pressure through time, peer pressure to not look like an idiot in front of your classmates, Form telling you you suck in a half serious half funny way, etc. I shot a good amount at longer distances beforehand so I would not assume just because you shoot long range you wouldn’t benefit. I’m guessing here obviously but I would imagine you would benefit just as much as anyone. You do need to show up with an open mind and have a thick skin!

 

[Cliff Gray]

Thanks for the review. I'm sorry you had to put up with Marlin.

hahaha! Marlin's a great dude.

honestly one of the biggest perks of the whole deal was the group. lots of good guys, all seriously trying to get better. It's a little circular logic but given the time commitment, logistics getting there, money involved, etc... you end up with people that have acknowledged there really isn't a shortcut. that kind of group feeds on itself in a good way.

 

[mt terry d]

Has anyone ever asked for their $$$ back?