Ending trapping

[Beendare]

California's biggest export is shitty politics

CA politics is straight from the DNC playbook....

...and half the country just voted in this DNC policy for congress and president.

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[BuzzH]

Oooo.... they fought it one time. How's their record in MT, WY and ID? I can tell you, it's piss poor.

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Another guy that can't read...

Montana BHA opposes I-177

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

In regard to Wyoming there is no way a ballot initiative on ending trapping would ever get the required signatures and wouldn't pass a vote even if by a miracle it did. The Commission and Department here are also using science based management and decision making in regard to trapping. They support trapping and so does the Wyoming BHA Chapter.

Can't say what the Idaho Chapter has done, but in MT, WY, and NM they've been in full support of trapping and fully in opposition to ending trapping.

 

[full choke]

I’m afraid banning trapping on public land is just the beginning here. There were more anti-outdoors and firearm bills introduced in the NM legislature this year than I have ever seen. Requiring all firearms to be locked in a safe unless in use, prohibiting possession of “ghost guns” (e.g., 80% ARs), making Game and Fish a wildlife conservation agency with a new mission to conserve all wildlife (not just game), etc. I called the representatives and senators on every committee by which the bills were considered to voice opposition. Luckily the session ended yesterday and nothing passed except the trapping bill.

I think next will be prohibiting lion and bear hunting and more firearm restrictions. It’s depressing to see the state heading in this direction. It seems things ratchet towards fewer hunting opportunities and more restrictions but never the other way.

Danomite- Welcome to Washington state!...

 

[cal30_sniper]

Another guy that can't read...

Montana BHA opposes I-177

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

In regard to Wyoming there is no way a ballot initiative on ending trapping would ever get the required signatures and wouldn't pass a vote even if by a miracle it did. The Commission and Department here are also using science based management and decision making in regard to trapping. They support trapping and so does the Wyoming BHA Chapter.

Can't say what the Idaho Chapter has done, but in MT, WY, and NM they've been in full support of trapping and fully in opposition to ending trapping.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

Let’s not let facts get in the way of our perception of reality.

 

[Outlaw99]

Like others have said, New Mexico is in trouble with this current governor and government. You think the ban on trapping in public is bad (which it is!!!); there’s fruit loops in cahoots with them that honestly want to protect the coyote. The same people are fighting for re introduction of the red Wolf. Not to mention all the anti gun shit they have in the works. I think the governor is up for re election in a year or two; I hope like hell they can find a way to get her out. I can’t imagine the outrage and anger felt by not only the sports man, but also all the cattleman and sheepmen in the state. Not only are they dealing with one of the worst droughts on record, shitty beef prices; now they’re supposed to sit back and feed the critters as well with what they have left. Anyone who thinks the trapping won’t affect them, hold your hats. They’re coming after everything. I’m pretty sure they already banned calling contests as well.

 

[Rob5589]

I’m afraid banning trapping on public land is just the beginning here. There were more anti-outdoors and firearm bills introduced in the NM legislature this year than I have ever seen. Requiring all firearms to be locked in a safe unless in use, prohibiting possession of “ghost guns” (e.g., 80% ARs), making Game and Fish a wildlife conservation agency with a new mission to conserve all wildlife (not just game), etc. I called the representatives and senators on every committee by which the bills were considered to voice opposition. Luckily the session ended yesterday and nothing passed except the trapping bill.

I think next will be prohibiting lion and bear hunting and more firearm restrictions. It’s depressing to see the state heading in this direction. It seems things ratchet towards fewer hunting opportunities and more restrictions but never the other way.

It is just the beginning. It is great that you and others recognize it. All that you posted is straight out of a Kalifornia playbook.

Low hanging fruit; trapping, spring bears, mountain lion, hounds, small furbearers. Even some hunters get behind those bans. Fight and fight hard at every turn, whether or not you participate in that particular discipline.

 

[roadrunner]

Like others have said, New Mexico is in trouble with this current governor and government. You think the ban on trapping in public is bad (which it is!!!); there’s fruit loops in cahoots with them that honestly want to protect the coyote. The same people are fighting for re introduction of the red Wolf. Not to mention all the anti gun shit they have in the works. I think the governor is up for re election in a year or two; I hope like hell they can find a way to get her out. I can’t imagine the outrage and anger felt by not only the sports man, but also all the cattleman and sheepmen in the state. Not only are they dealing with one of the worst droughts on record, shitty beef prices; now they’re supposed to sit back and feed the critters as well with what they have left. Anyone who thinks the trapping won’t affect them, hold your hats. They’re coming after everything. I’m pretty sure they already banned calling contests as well.

Yes, mlg is up for a first class termination in 2022. A state trying to promote outdoor recreation is doing a piss-poor job of it. But when you have city slicker lawyers in office, what do you expect?

 

[Hoodie]

Oooo.... they fought it one time. How's their record in MT, WY and ID? I can tell you, it's piss poor.

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CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

Here's another one.

 

[Hoodie]

I emailed every state rep in NM

so BHA did nothing again for sportsmen? Being a BH rep thanks for clarifying this by not answering my question again. Maybe more pint nites will help sportsmen???:

But BHA supports politicians like this. she seems almost as anti gun as you

Deb Haaland on Gun Control

every time you reply it just makes more certain that quitting BHA was the right thing and continue to support real pro sportsmen orgs like RMEF, MDF, SCI.RGS,DU

I did a quick google search for "RMEF New Mexico Trapping Ban" and "Mule Deer Foundation New Mexico Trapping Ban".

Looks like neither of them even mentioned it in a write up from what I saw. Maybe I missed it. If I did, don't hesitate to let me know.

But if that's the case it looks like BHA did more than either of those "real pro sportsmen orgs".

 

[Rich M]

Y'know, was just thinking. If there was a way to encourage fur and hide use, then the demand would go up and trapping would be wanted more.

If less folks wear furs, less fur is wanted, then less need to trap.

Less trapped coons and foxes and such = less turkey, quail, pheasant, ducks, etc.

Maybe just kill em and leave em lay? Save a turkey, shoot a bobcat or raccoon or possum or skunk?

 

[Rob5589]

CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

Here's another one.

That is awesome, and much appreciated. But that is one organization, albeit representing many people/members. Would it not be better for politicians to hear from thousands of hunters/anglers? I would think so but I honestly do not know. What I do know is that one or more organizations cannot do it alone. Individuals need to have their voices heard as well. Going with the flow and not wanting to cause waves isn't working.

 

[Hoodie]

That is awesome, and much appreciated. But that is one organization, albeit representing many people/members. Would it not be better for politicians to hear from thousands of hunters/anglers? I would think so but I honestly do not know. What I do know is that one or more organizations cannot do it alone. Individuals need to have their voices heard as well. Going with the flow and not wanting to cause waves isn't working.

Fully agree.

That was more so to address people acting like BHA has been sitting on the sidelines here, when so far as I can tell they've just objectively done more than RMEF and MDF to combat recent anti-sportsmen legislation. Neither of those orgs posted anything regarding the NM trapping ban so far as I can tell, and RMEF only did an after-action report on the California bear hunting ban after it had already been canned.

This is going to be really hard for some people on here to understand, but that doesn't mean I think you shouldn't contribute to RMEF or MDF. They're both fantastic organizations, and I'm not shitting on them.

But they weren't more vocal than BHA in their opposition. They really weren't vocal at all.

BHA was.

It's up to individual hunters to decide whether or not that's worth $35 a year. It is to me. And I don't even go to pint nights or sing kumbaya.

 

[MtGomer]

I just visited NM BHA Facebook page. There is 11 public posts, 10 of them from admins(people actually involved with the state chapter) during the month of March organizing opposition to SB32.
Obviously this says nothing about dollars spent or anything if that nature, but I suspect the razor thin house vote of 35-34 in deep blue NM atleast partly has to do with the activism of NMBHA and NMWF.

NM RMEF has zero public posts on the topic.

 

[JPD350]

In NM the RMEF does exactly what the "Coalition tells them to do" they will not go against them or put any effort out unless the Bosses say it.
Alright they don't really tell the RMEF what to do but the RMEF follows them like a puppy sucking on a tit

Yea I am a member despite this.....

 

[Rat]

I'm sure this will not be a popular post but, it appears to me from reading through all the posts on this topic that I have found the problem. We as sportsman spend way too much time fighting with each other instead of fighting against the real enemy. I have seen it all my life, bow hunters fighting against rifle hunters, bait hunters fighting against hound hunters. Way too many so called sportsman believe that the way they do things is the only way it should be done. We spend so much time fighting each other that when we turn around, oh my goodness they banned trapping. I don't know hardly anything about the BHA but I am sure they didn't sponsor or endorse this bill.
If we want to have any hope of continuing to enjoy hunting and trapping, we need to put on our big boy pants and agree to disagree on the less important issues between the different sporting groups and fight these crazy people as a team. But I don't believe it will ever happen because we are a prideful, selfish bunch.

 

[wind gypsy]

I'm sure this will not be a popular post but, it appears to me from reading through all the posts on this topic that I have found the problem. We as sportsman spend way too much time fighting with each other instead of fighting against the real enemy. I have seen it all my life, bow hunters fighting against rifle hunters, bait hunters fighting against hound hunters. Way too many so called sportsman believe that the way they do things is the only way it should be done. We spend so much time fighting each other that when we turn around, oh my goodness they banned trapping. I don't know hardly anything about the BHA but I am sure they didn't sponsor or endorse this bill.
If we want to have any hope of continuing to enjoy hunting and trapping, we need to put on our big boy pants and agree to disagree on the less important issues between the different sporting groups and fight these crazy people as a team. But I don't believe it will ever happen because we are a prideful, selfish bunch.

Are you saying that starting a post complaining about a new bill and focusing anger on one of the few sportsman’s organizations who actually fought it is counter productive? Huh.

 

[Larry Bartlett]

BHA's focus is on protecting public lands, not for hunting rights. Although I left BHA for different reasons, a mission statement is very concise and helps focus your tractor beam on one part of the machine...like public land access. If they protect hunter's rights along the way great, but hopefully you see the logic in this reason. Can't rely on a group for individual rights.

In the end I believe it'll come down to individuals protecting their own right to hunt, armed to the hilt and fiercely guarded. Or it might be that I'm only speaking for myself.

 

[BuzzH]

BHA's focus is on protecting public lands, not for hunting rights. Although I left BHA for different reasons, a mission statement is very concise and helps focus your tractor beam on one part of the machine...like public land access. If they protect hunter's rights along the way great, but hopefully you see the logic in this reason. Can't rely on a group for individual rights.

In the end I believe it'll come down to individuals protecting their own right to hunt, armed to the hilt and fiercely guarded. Or it might be that I'm only speaking for myself.

I think it will take both, individuals being supported by the various pro hunting organizations....and not the other way around. The process works much better when a large number of individual constituents represent themselves VS. letting any group(s) represent the larger sporting community. Both have their place and leveraging both at the right time and on the right issues is key.

I would also like to see the revival of the local hook and bullet sportsmen's groups/associations that were common across the West in nearly every decent sized town. Montana still has a few and they're very effective. National organizations are great for issues more broad in scale, but don't always dive into the most important issues specific to a state or county in regard to wildlife and land management decisions.

 

[204guy]

@Okhotnik reminds me of a broke, tattooed, enraged, woke pink haired feminist protester who’s Trump Derangement Syndrome makes it impossible for her to think about anything without blaming Trump, except he’s a grown man and it’s BHA instead.
Reeeee the patriarchy.reeeeeee

Pretty much the picture in my head whenever he posts.

 

[Dschwan]

Here is an email that I just received from the CBA. Its worth a read as well as a few minuted of your time to sent the Gov. an email.


DEFEATED
Colorado Parks and Wildlife Citizen’s Petition to Ban Trapping


Your Voice and Actions Make a Difference

The Humane Society once again made an attempt to ban the remaining form of trapping in Colorado at the March 17th Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission Meeting. The Colorado Bowhunters Association joined with forty other sportsman organizations to rally together to defeat the issue once again.




CBA Liaison, Joey Brown, led the charge for bowhunters to collaborate with our friends at Coloradans for Responsible Wildlife Management to actively participate in the public commission hearing to ensure bowhunters were heard.





In a unanimous vote, all commissions supported Colorado sportsmen’s groups to defeat the petition. The Humane Society has used several tactics over the last three years to ban trapping; the latest was based on their legal interpretation of amendment 14, a 1996 ballot initiative that now restricts traps and poisons on public lands. The basis of their claim was quickly shot down by the CPW legal representative during the meeting.





While sportsmen’s groups won the day in Colorado at defending our hunting rights, the fight continues. In New Mexico, Senate Bill 32 (Trapping Ban) has now passed the house by one vote and is now headed to the governor’s desk. Below is the notice we received from our sportsmen brothers and sister to the south asking for support.





CALL TO ACTION UPDATE


It is with so much anger and frustration that I report to you that SB 32, the bill that will ban trapping on all NM public lands, passed the House last night by ONE vote and is now headed to the Governor's desk for signature. This is not good news but we won't go down without one last fight.





Please send an email to the Governor TODAY and tell her to veto SB 32 (Trapping Ban). Click HERE to send the Governor an email. You can also call the governor's office and leave a message at (505) 476-2200.





And if you think that because you are not a trapper that this legislation won't impact you, you are wrong. A ban on trapping is just step 2 in the anti-hunting lobby's playbook. Clear as day on the Project Coyote website it reads "we advocate to abolition unethical practices such as predator killing contests, trapping, and trophy hunting". As you can plainly see a ban on hunting is the ultimate end goal!





Sportsman: Please, for the sake of the entire hunting industry, PLEASE band together and push Governor Lujan Grisham to veto SB 32. Forward this email far and wide.





What other attempts to roll back hunters rights are at work in Colorado? Stay tuned for the next issue of The Colorado Bowhunter. The CPW and Legislative articles will be detailing more attempts on our hunting rights along with ACTIONS we can continue to defend our rights.





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