"DOI will work with HUD to identify lands to offload for the development of affordable homes"

[grainhog]

Blindly choosing to believe that politicians have our best interests at heart, when all their words and actions obviously and indisputably (read the article) indicate the opposite; with the ostensible non-plan to remain silent and obedient and then maybe impotently and retroactively react later; weakens our ability to assert our will and resist the establishment of new land transfer precedent.

*fify

In your anology, what is "nuking the mold" and "injecting insulin"? Organizing and communicating to reps that land transfer is unacceptable? A disingenuous and inaccurate argument. That's fixing the leak and eating healthy/exercising.

If some garbage you saw somewhere once on public land, or that you never saw a buck in a particular spot, constitutes proof for you that the associated ground is better off under town homes and parking lots, then I wouldn't know where to begin to dispell the misunderstanding.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

*fify

In your anology, what is "nuking the mold" and "injecting insulin"? Organizing and communicating to reps that land transfer is unacceptable? A disingenuous and inaccurate argument. That's fixing the leak and eating healthy/exercising.

If some garbage you saw somewhere once on public land, or that you never saw a buck in a particular spot, constitutes proof for you that the associated ground is better off under town homes and parking lots, then I wouldn't know where to begin to dispell the misunderstanding.

What lands do you think will be sold for "affordable housing" that are worth keeping? Nobody is building townhomes and parking lots in the mountains or plains we consider our playgrounds, they'll be in the cities or suburbs near towns that have been gobbled up anyway. I disagree with the premise that we should just keep any and all lands because we have them. There are very likely some that are better off swapped with other properties and some that are more of a burden and worthless. All lands are not the same. If these people working with the states to identify lands that could be useful for affordable housing projects are something worth keeping then we fight, until then we're just screaming at an empty space with no targets. They very likely will come back unable to identify any good targets and not have anything at all transferred off. All I'm saying is instead of screaming into the air lets obtain a target and scream at a target. This isn't it, this is right now a big nothing burger.

 

[Jbehredt]

They’re building “poor people reservations”. Except this time the feds keep the gambling profits. And drugs and alcohol are encouraged!

 

[TaperPin]

Giving billionares land for new developments as political favors to developers makes me sick.

Has anyone taken a tour of any new “affordable” housing developments? We were curious and looked a few hundred lots under construction. Instead of million dollar homes, they squeeze two smaller $500k track homes into a smaller lot. 4’ from the sides of the walls to the property lines, 16’ front and back yards, no sidewalks, no street parking. This is pure developer greed - giving this kind of land way should give everyone pause.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

Giving billionares land for new developments as political favors to developers makes me sick.

Has anyone taken a tour of any new “affordable” housing developments? We were curious and looked a few hundred lots under construction. Instead of million dollar homes, they squeeze two smaller $500k track homes into a smaller lot. 4’ from the sides of the walls to the property lines, 16’ front and back yards, no sidewalks, no street parking. This is pure developer greed - giving this kind of land way should give everyone pause.

People need to live somewhere. If you don't squash them in densely for the city dwellers then they'll take up twice as much space. Are you proposing they jettison twice as much land to accommodate housing needs? I love highrise cramped apartment complexes, stack them up high for the people who want to live there so the overall footprint is less on the land.

 

[TaperPin]

People need to live somewhere. If you don't squash them in densely for the city dwellers then they'll take up twice as much space. Are you proposing they jettison twice as much land to accommodate housing needs? I love highrise cramped apartment complexes, stack them up high for the people who want to live there so the overall footprint is less on the land.

There are open fields right next to all these developments, developers just don’t want to pay the price. Why would they when the oligarchs have convinced you to give land away? You’ve already agreed to give the land away - why not give away Forest Service sage covered foothills on the other side of the valley? Why not prime spots?

Unbelievable.

Do you think developers like Harland Crow give two schitts about how normal people live, or where they live? But you’re lined up to give him welfare in the form of free land. Literally welfare.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

There are open fields right next to all these developments, developers just don’t want to pay the price. Why would they when the oligarchs have convinced you to give land away? You’ve already agreed to give the land away - why not give away Forest Service sage covered foothills on the other side of the valley? Why not prime spots?

Unbelievable.

Do you think developers like Harland Crow give two schitts about how normal people live, or where they live? But you’re lined up to give him welfare in the form of free land. Literally welfare.

lol, you've got it bad my dude. This isn't such a simple black and white good vs evil, there's a lot of cards in play and a lot of needs of a lot of people all the way around. You can't even identify any land that's actually being given away, that's the problem. They only said there's gonna look around and see if something makes sense. Hold your screaming for when something, if ever, develops from this and then unleash on them if they step in the wrong direction.

 

[TaperPin]

if something makes sense.

In your mind you’ve already given them permission without knowing anything about their choices - what “makes sense” to you and to the developers this is intended to benefit will likely be quite different. Show me one developer that isn’t acting in their own best interest. Based on the genius management skills shown across all departments I’m not hopeful.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

In your mind you’ve already given them permission without knowing anything about their choices - what “makes sense” to you and to the developers this is intended to benefit will likely be quite different. Show me one developer that isn’t acting in their own best interest. Based on the genius management skills shown across all departments I’m not hopeful.

lol Taper, you're just making stuff up now.
My pitchfork is ready when the time comes, this ain't it.

 

[TaperPin]

lol Taper, you're just making stuff up now.
My pitchfork is ready when the time comes, this ain't it.

This is a small whackadoodle distraction to flood the news cycle, but it doesn’t go unnoticed. The bigger issues you should be using that pitchfork on are well under way.