DOI proposing to turn public lands into housing

[elkhunter505]

Not gonna lie, I don’t fully understand how this works or how likely public land sales are to be in this reconciliation bill.

That’s the scary part. Sounds like it leaves it really open ended and doesn’t set regulations or limits on it. I’m sure there’s someone here who can break it down for us. Hopefully they’ll jump on here. I’m debating making a new thread but not sure if it’s warranted or not.

 

[Hnthrdr]

This whole plan from what I see is obtuse on purpose, there is a good podcast called Rockymountain news with Braxton McCoy, they address this, basically seems like a pump and dump for developers

 

[Wheels]

Who says they’re only going to sell off the “undesirable” public land. Maybe Elon or some other billionaire wants to own the Tetons for his own little getaway. I’m guessing we won’t be invited to the sale either.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Who says they’re only going to sell off the “undesirable” public land. Maybe Elon or some other billionaire wants to own the Tetons for his own little getaway. I’m guessing we won’t be invited to the sale either.

This is what people don’t get, it starts with an “undesirable” chunk here or there… then it turns into 100000 acres of wintering ground there or here, then entire chunks of mountain ranges…. Also why should a developer get a sweet deal on 20, 30, 500 acres? Why can’t you or I get that deal for Pennie’s on the dollar for acreage? Oh cause they will build slums and import people from cities or the 3rd world who likely hate my way of life and what I stand for? Woah what an idea…

 

[Syncerus1]

In the urban/metro areas of our country there is over 40 million acres of federal vacant land combined... 40 MILLION... there goes my dream of a cabin in Yellowstone...

 

[Wheels]

And the rich guys who lost the corner crossing cases will petition our leaders to sell them the adjacent lands so we won’t have to worry about buying ladders.

 

[Hnthrdr]

In the urban/metro areas of our country there is over 40 million acres of federal vacant land combined... 40 MILLION... there goes my dream of a cabin in Yellowstone...

Right? Enforce laws. Jail criminals, clean up cities and people will 1000% want to live in them. Oh and they infrastructure in place and the ability to employ a lot of people. Building future slums on our wintering grounds in the west sounds about like the fake cities China builds to keep their economy pumped up… it’s weird pathetic and creepy. Sorry my birthright should not be for sale

 

[finner]

Not gonna lie, I don’t fully understand how this works or how likely public land sales are to be in this reconciliation bill.

It's likely if the administration gets enough support in Congress. My understanding is they're feeling out Republican senators to gauge their temperature on support.

 

[flathead#2]

Biggest Crock I've heard in a long time.

 

[elkhunter505]

Man the fear mongering accusers are pretty quiet after this….

Edit: was blowing off steam after long day of work. Apologies for this, could have left it alone.

 

[WRO]

Truth is there’s some that needs to go, it’s just homeless camps and dump piles..

Plus there’s a lot that’s inaccessible by anyone.


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[CJ19]

Man the fear mongering accusers are pretty quiet after this….

nothing has happened yet. the reason ppl are quiet is the mods asked people to be quiet about politics. so most people have stopped responding to the complete nonsense and 25 the sky is falling posts you make a day.

 

[Ozarkansas]

nothing has happened yet. the reason ppl are quiet is the mods asked people to be quiet about politics. so most people have stopped responding to the complete nonsense and 25 the sky is falling posts you make a day.

Yeah elkhunter505 shouldn’t have poked the bear, but what exactly do you consider to be “something happening”?

You have the head of the DOI saying that they are actively working on a plan to develop public lands, and separately you have Congress weighing the possibility of selling some off. I admit the congressional one is still in the early stages but the DOI statement is as concrete as it gets without actually having land marked for sale.

“House Natural Resources Chair Bruce Westerman said one concept under review would involve selling some lands around Western cities or national parks to build more housing.” - this is coming from a dude from my state who I’ve considered to be pro-public lands in the past

 

[CJ19]

right. nothing has happened. they are evaluating and looking at ideas. we have no idea what that is going to look like. the last administration transferred some public lands for housing development. I saw nothing posted from you or any of the other people that spend time furiously typing dozens of posts daily everytime some rag news outlet recycles some news tidbit.

Yeah elkhunter505 shouldn’t have poked the bear, but what exactly do you consider to be “something happening”?

You have the head of the DOI saying that they are actively working on a plan to develop public lands, and separately you have Congress weighing the possibility of selling some off. I admit the congressional one is still in the early stages but the DOI statement is as concrete as it gets without actually having land marked for sale.

“House Natural Resources Chair Bruce Westerman said one concept under review would involve selling some lands around Western cities or national parks to build more housing.” - this is coming from a dude from my state who I’ve considered to be pro-public lands in the past

 

[jimh406]

I found this pretty interesting. As noted, there's a difference in selling a few acres here and there versus actively trying to sell it all.

In any case, this was pretty good. You'll have to fast forward to get to the public land discussion.

 

[Ozarkansas]

right. nothing has happened. they are evaluating and looking at ideas. we have no idea what that is going to look like. the last administration transferred some public lands for housing development. I saw nothing posted from you or any of the other people that spend time furiously typing dozens of posts daily everytime some rag news outlet recycles some news tidbit.

You’re right, Biden and Harris had similar policy proposals and actually implemented them on a small scale in 2024. I was unaware of those at the time, which is why I didn’t “furiously type dozens of posts” about that, but I’d be against democrats doing this as well.

 

[Poser]

I sent an email to Oppose Public Land Sales in Budget Reconciliation. Would you like at that: I got an email response from ol' Donald Trump himself -even has his signature.

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Dear Mr. Poser,

Thank you for contacting me regarding our public lands and outdoor recreation economy. I appreciate hearing from you on this important topic.

I share your love of our public lands across the United States, especially in Colorado. I have fought to protect and maintain our public lands, an integral part of Colorado’s heritage, economy, and western way of life.

In 2014, I protected over 100,000 acres in the Hermosa Creek watershed outside Durango through new wilderness and special management designations. In 2019, I fought to permanently and fully fund the Land and Water Conservation Fund – a crucial tool to protect and guarantee access to Colorado’s public lands for all. In 2022, I secured the permanent protection of Camp Amache and President Joe Biden’s first National Monument, the Camp Hale-Continental Divide National Monument.

Over the last decade, I have led three significant legislative efforts to protect public land in Colorado. The Colorado Outdoor Recreation & Economy (CORE) Act would protect over 420,000 acres of public land in Colorado, establish new wilderness areas, and safeguard existing outdoor recreation opportunities to boost the economy for future generations. The Gunnison Outdoor Resources Protection (GORP) Act would secure key portions of the Gunnison Basin for generations of future Coloradans through a variety of public land management tools, including special designations focused on recreation, wildlife, scientific research, and conservation. Finally, the Dolores River National Conservation Area and Special Management Area Act would protect 68,000 acres along the Dolores River Corridor after nearly two decades of local discussion and collaboration on the Dolores River and at the request of Dolores, Montezuma, and San Miguel Counties, the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe, a local cattle rancher, and conservation groups.

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[Conrad101st]

Anytime any government official says that he or she wants to utilize public lands for anything other than wildlife or recreation, I get suspicious.

Not too concerned about the poor or the rich. More concerned about the elk, the water, the hunters, the campers and backpackers.

Let the unwashed masses stay in their nasty cities and feed on each other. I want to hear nothing but wind ripping through the pines and birds and elk bugles when I’m in the back country. I want to see unblemished tundra, not pump stations, oil rigs and tanker trucks when i caribou hunt the north slope.

 

[CJ19]

Anytime any government official says that he or she wants to utilize public lands for anything other than wildlife or recreation, I get suspicious.

Not too concerned about the poor or the rich. More concerned about the elk, the water, the hunters, the campers and backpackers.

Let the unwashed masses stay in their nasty cities and feed on each other. I want to hear nothing but wind ripping through the pines and birds and elk bugles when I’m in the back country. I want to see unblemished tundra, not pump stations, oil rigs and tanker trucks when i caribou hunt the north slope.

Youre welcome to feel however you want. But the advertisement being sold to everyone by the pro public land lobby is that these public lands are far too valuable to sell bc they can be used for energy development, minerals, ranching, timber, etc in addition to the activities you like or care about. In fact the previous administration committed in excess of 20 million acres of those public lands to renewable energy and renewable infrastructure and the largest conservation groups in the business were in full support of it.