Corner Crossing: Public Wins!

[Stubborn_bowhunter]

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[S-3 ranch]

I’m classified as handicap, I wonder if a ADA lawsuit would stand to benefit that ADA assessable gates be put in place at the corners , bloody hell we have rights to public property also, in some states I am allowed to have a helper and use a vehicle where they are not allowed to regular people, just can’t shoot from the vehicle is the law
I can walk but no way can climb up a steep ladder, drives other hunters nuts seeing us drive past them when we hunt a NWR or state permit property, lol

 

[Billinsd]

Who will first to create software to identify corners and write what kind of game opportunities there are there? ONX? How many of you have already identified new places to hunt? How many are going to change their application strategies, because of this?

 

[ScreamingPotato]

How many are going to change their application strategies, because of this?

I wasn't planning to hunt antelope this year but I'm actually considering it now.

 

[mad_angler]

As for making ladders, here is one example.

 

[mad_angler]

Here is another idea. It is completely different and has me wondering if I could do something similar with logs...

 

[SM1]

I would like to know if and which states other than WY this will be legal in.
CO, ID, MT, NM, UT?

 

[WaltherDawg]

Looking forward to an ADA lawsuit to open those corners to be handicap accessible.

 

[elkhunter505]

I would like to know if and which states other than WY this will be legal in.
CO, ID, MT, NM, UT?

CO, KS, OK, WY, UT, and NM are the states this decision pertains to. Additionally, at this point the decision is likely limited to BLM land, but I think that these LOs would knee cap themselves if they try to sue someone doing this on another type of public land. There’s a lot of ways this could continue to play out. Maybe that LO will continue to be pissed off enough to push it up and then it would apply to everyone if it make it to the SCOTUS and they uphold that same ruling.

I think given this decision, it could be in the best interest of a National hunting association to use their resources to try and litigate past this point to include all states and all types of public land. But I don’t understand litigation. Seems like the argument would be that LOs are infringing on the public’s right to access their own land. If LOs say we are infringing on their private land rights, we can say they’re infringing on our public land rights.

 

[Billinsd]

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[silencedmajority]

Is corner crossing already legal in AZ?

 

[galopoh338]

Is corner crossing already legal in AZ?

Was about asking that too


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[eaglemountainman]

Survey pins should be made clearly visible at all corners. Corner fence posts should be made approximately 30" apart (pick a number), to allow for access for all, including wheelchairs. This should be the LO's financial responsibility, considering the decades of free exclusive use they've had to these parcels. LOs found guilty of placing impediments to access should be severely fined.

 

[Fujicon]

Survey pins should be made clearly visible at all corners. Corner fence posts should be made approximately 30" apart (pick a number), to allow for access for all, including wheelchairs. This should be the LO's financial responsibility, considering the decades of free exclusive use they've had to these parcels. LOs found guilty of placing impediments to access should be severely fined.

Wheelchair access falls under the ADA, which specifies a minimum 32" width for access. However, that is for a built environment. Would that 32" minimum width requirement apply in a non-built context? Not sure, but an interesting idea...

 

[WaltherDawg]

Not only maintain the appropriate width but graded and possibly paved so a wheelchair can actually be used. No going over boulders.
If the landowners had been cooperative then I am sure a lot of folk would let it slide. But one asshole had to be a dick so it is time for all of them to learn a lesson about getting along.

 

[Amos Keeto]

Nobody, not even the ultra wealthy, can exclude the public from accessing public land per the Unlawful Inclosures Act of 1885!

Appeals court backs corner crossers in Wyoming public lands case - WyoFile

Federal three-judge panel supports decision that corner crossing in Wyoming’s checkerboard area is not trespassing as long as private land is not touched.

wyofile.com

Some credit where credit is due:
Support the excellent reporting of Wyofile. Angus Thuermer has handled this story so well.
This battle never would have happened if it wasn't for the leadership of the Wyoming BHA chapter. They convinced the Missouri Four to fight this rather than just pay the trespassing fine, and then proceeded to bankroll their legal fees.

Anything that has the BHA attached to it is always a bit suspect in my book.
At my age and physical condition, I'm doing good to walk across my yard, much less strap on a backpack and wander off into the great out yonder.
Though I've never been affected by the "Corner Crossing" debacle, I have been pulling for hunters to be able to access those landlocked areas a long time now.

Hidden treasures for the adventurous!

 

[BigDuckHunter]

I also think that the majority of landowners that are against this are people that are benefitting from the hunting portion of it, not people that are running cattle operations.

I think you’re spot on there. Most ranchers/farmers don’t care as long as you don’t mess with their livelihood.

I do think we should all make sure we are as respectful as possible with this though. Cross only at the corner, make as small of an impact on their operations as possible, etc. There are a few a-holes out there who want to fight but I’d guess a lot of the private landowners on corners are happy to have people corner cross if they’re respectful. But if we cause issues they may start lobbying/trying to restrict access.

There’s a farmer near my hometown who owns land that’s basically in a horseshoe around the best public hunting in the area. He used to let anyone who asked walk across his land to get to the public. It could cut a 5+ mile walk through difficult terrain into a quarter mile down a grass waterway. Then someone tore down a blind he had built on his own property because it was close to “their hunting spot”. After that he decided he was done letting folks walk across his land.

One dickhead can ruin it for everyone. Don’t be that guy.