Cold Bore Challenge Q&A Thread

[lak2004]

This is gonna be great! Thanks to you all for putting this together. I'm gonna have a tough time picking a MER, but I'll do some practicing until the challenge to see what I get comfortable with. My thoughts are my MER will be based on 2 factors: comfort level and energy at distance of chosen bullet for game.
Any thoughts?
I'll probably shoot my manbun gun because I'm most confident in it (have spent the most time behind it) with either the 140 eldm or 127 lrx.

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[DangerRanger]

depending on rifle rules I’ll probably be doing comfort level for that specific rifle I choose and making sure my velocity is adequate for game performance.

Ie my 223 MER can’t be the same as my 6.5 creed, as my expansion velocity is an important cap to my effective range with that firearm.

Pretty much “would I hunt with that” seems like an appropriate category for this challenge until I see the final rules. Unfortunately my main hunting rifle is without a scope currently so I need to get my stuff together

 

[ResearchinStuff]

it's really only the first day that you make a range trip for a single shot if you're going <600 yards. The cold bore is just the first shot on the second day, then you're complete with the challenge and can do whatever you'd like at the range.

 

[Harvey_NW]

Day 3: One shot at your MER over 600 yards. Hit or miss doesn't matter.
Day 4: One shot at your MER over 600 yards. Hit or miss doesn't matter.

Will these days need to be in a row, or will day 3 and 4 be the following weekend? Sorry, just trying to plan ahead with work. Agriculture isn't very lenient in the spring and summer.

 

[BRTreedogs]

This is gonna be great! Thanks to you all for putting this together. I'm gonna have a tough time picking a MER, but I'll do some practicing until the challenge to see what I get comfortable with. My thoughts are my MER will be based on 2 factors: comfort level and energy at distance of chosen bullet for game.
Any thoughts?
I'll probably shoot my manbun gun because I'm most confident in it (have spent the most time behind it) with either the 140 eldm or 127 lrx.

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Over thinking it.
This is a kill zone effective challenge, a shooting challenge.
Not an efficiency of killing drill, energy bullet etc does not matter imo.
Pick a distance past your 100% i got this range and challenge yourself.

This challenge may actually take me several days.
As I plan to push myself. And I may have to real it back in to get my 2 for 2 qualifying hits.

Then that will prove to me where my actual skill ends.
Practice as far as humanly possible. Its just ammo.
Just because the killing efficiency of your cartridge is a certain distance doesn't me you should practice further.

Why can't your skill exceed you cartridge?

 

[BRTreedogs]

Will these days need to be in a row, or will day 3 and 4 be the following weekend? Sorry, just trying to plan ahead with work. Agriculture isn't very lenient in the spring and summer.

It doesn't matter.
Just no shots fired in between

 

[sram9102]

Over thinking it.
This is a kill zone effective challenge, a shooting challenge.
Not an efficiency of killing drill, energy bullet etc does not matter imo.
Pick a distance past your 100% i got this range and challenge yourself.

This challenge may actually take me several days.
As I plan to push myself. And I may have to real it back in to get my 2 for 2 qualifying hits.

Then that will prove to me where my actual skill ends.
Practice as far as humanly possible. Its just ammo.
Just because the killing efficiency of your cartridge is a certain distance doesn't me you should practice further.

Why can't your skill exceed you cartridge?

This taking more than 4 days is my expected outcome. I have 725 out the back door but have fired exactly 5 shots at that distance over the years. Gonna give that distance a go at first but may have to come back to my typical 500ish.

 

[Justin Crossley]

Will these days need to be in a row, or will day 3 and 4 be the following weekend? Sorry, just trying to plan ahead with work. Agriculture isn't very lenient in the spring and summer.

You pick the days. Just no shooting on the day you start or in between shots.

 

[BlackTail]

Valid points but I don't think it really matters for the spirit of this challenge. You don't get entries in the drawing for hits inside the "kill zone." You get entries for pushing yourself and completing the challenge.

As far as point of aim. A deer or elk is much larger than a 10" circle so I don't think painting or marking a kill zone on a larger target is any different.

Sounds good Justin! I probably should have read up on what the Cold Bow Challenge is/was. I see this is NOT a competition so no standardized target size needed. I’ll definitively be getting in on this!!

 

[DangerRanger]

I guess I misunderstood the point of MER as it relates to this challenge. I thought the whole point was the furthest you thought you could ethically shoot game with a given combo, and then the challenge to back up that thought process, not the furthest I could shoot a plate with a given combo.

 

[BRTreedogs]

I guess I misunderstood the point of MER as it relates to this challenge. I thought the whole point was the furthest you thought you could ethically shoot game with a given combo, and then the challenge to back up that thought process, not the furthest I could shoot a plate with a given combo.

If you build the skill it translates.
Say you are shooting a cartridge that runs out of steam. But you use it to build skill.

Let's say 600 is the furthest you feel your cartridge is capable of taking game.

But you use it to build skill to 900 on a plate.

Then you build another rifle with a cartridge with enough energy you believe is capable of efficient killing at 900 bamb you're in business.

Vs only having skill to 600 then upgrading cartridges and not having the skill to use it.

I'm obviously not not running this challenge, but to me this is a skill of precision challenge.

Not i have to limit myself because I shoot a small cartridge challenge.

 

[BRTreedogs]

I guess I misunderstood the point of MER as it relates to this challenge. I thought the whole point was the furthest you thought you could ethically shoot game with a given combo, and then the challenge to back up that thought process, not the furthest I could shoot a plate with a given combo.

Its almost more to show the people with hot shot setups that they purchased and don't practice with. They probably are not as capable as they tout off on the internet.

You can have the most precise setup in the country. But if you don't have any skill behind it. Well its virtually useless.

 

[DangerRanger]

So if it’s a challenge of my skill, and not a capability with your chosen weapon system challenge I guess I need to use my comp rifle instead of a hunting setup that I would not shoot as far.

 

[realunlucky]

I guess I misunderstood the point of MER as it relates to this challenge. I thought the whole point was the furthest you thought you could ethically shoot game with a given combo, and then the challenge to back up that thought process, not the furthest I could shoot a plate with a given combo.

This is the spirit of the challenge

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[BRTreedogs]

So if it’s a challenge of my skill, and not a capability with your chosen weapon system challenge I guess I need to use my comp rifle instead of a hunting setup that I would not shoot as far.

You are still thinking its a contest.

 

[BRTreedogs]

People asked about limiting the distance it they use a 22.
So if we are gonna limit distance based on a cartridge killing ability why don't we all just use 22s

 

[Justin Crossley]

So if it’s a challenge of my skill, and not a capability with your chosen weapon system challenge I guess I need to use my comp rifle instead of a hunting setup that I would not shoot as far.

Shooting a comp rifle doesn't speak to your skill with a hunting rifle. This challenge is designed for people to challenge themselves. Not "win" a trophy.

 

[DangerRanger]

I’m not trying to win, I’m trying to use it as a personal way to determine how far I could actually shoot my various rifle combos at game. It is not going to fit that purpose. I need to address it as it’s own thing, and remove alternate motives.

Thanks for the help

 

[BRTreedogs]

Seems like sand bagging if you have the skill but are gonna limit yourself and choose a smaller cartridge.
So with a 300wm your good to 900
But since you are choosing to use a 223 cartridge 601 is it?

How is that a challenge to your shooting ability when you know you have the skill but are choosing a lesser cartridge?

 

[DangerRanger]

How is that a challenge to your shooting ability when you know you have the skill but are choosing a lesser cartridge?

It might not be, as I’ve said I thought this was a challenge of your MER with a given combo, not MER of an optimal combo.

I thought the point was to back up what you preach about how far you could shoot an animal with your rifle. If that’s the case my mind can’t grasp separating it from literally how far is possible. With as many people here shooting 223s with what seems like a lot of talent I looked at mine in my kestrel and I can’t expand at 550, so I’d never take the shot, and I’d never say I would with that rifle either.

It seems that’s not the spirit of the challenge is not that, and I need to pick something based on me and not based on how far it’s effective on game.

I’m sorry it seemed like I was trying to sandbag, I’m not sure why someone would in a challenge that doesn’t care if you miss.