Clean Energy Arsenal

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

This ain’t an issue of climate change. When the head of the fed literally brings up green energy and the need to shift from petroleum to wind and solar, you know it’s NOT about solving an problem, it’s about power.

An example:

France is smaller than texas yet has 53 nuclear power plants. The vast majority of electric in France is from nuclear.

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The US is 17x the size of france, has 5x the population and we only have 90 reactors.

When is the last time anyone worried about meltdowns in france?

Here’s an interesting graphic from BC

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Do some fun math… to replace 1 hydro dam, it’s 30,000,000 square meters of solar panels. That’s 11 square miles.

Q: How many new reactors are we building in the US?

A: 2

See the scam?

What is so funny to me is the double dealing and hypocrisy involved for each of these types of electric production. The chicken littles of climate change constantly talk out of both sides of their faces.

1- Install dams to leverage the free energy from running water! Take out dams to save hatcheries, reduce flooding, and create whitewater recreational areas
2- Install wind turbines to leverage the free energy of the wind! Don't install turbines becuase they kill raptors and disrupt bird migration flyways
3- Install solar panels to leverage the free energy from the sun! Don't install solar panels because solar farms and concentrators kill birds and endanger ecosystems.
4- Install nuclear power plants to harness the ginormous output of the atom. Don't install nuclear powerplants, becuase of Chernobyl, 3-Mile Island, and issues with disposing of radioactive waste.
5- Expand drilling and build more oil refineries to leverage the planet's oldest and most reliable energy source! Wait... Nobody is suggesting that. Associated "man-made" climate change is going to flood the earth and give us all skin cancer.

You can't suggest any type of power production without a contradicting environmental argument. I can tell you living in Iowa (2nd highest wind producer) the wind turbines are taking over the landscape and skyline without delivering any out of pocket savings to Iowans. The latest proposal I heard was the Mid-American is generating so much power with them they want to install a mega underground circuit to provide power to Chicago. Certainly a private utility couldn't leverage imminent domain to snatch private property for such a for-profit venture could they? If the wind business is so good and they have so much energy they can export to other states, wouldn't you think they'd give their customers a discount? LOL!!!

AND THEN THERE IS CARBON DIOXIDE CAPTURE. There is an outfit pitching a proposal to install a piplein across Iowa that would transport CO2 captured from ethanol plant emissions and safely store it underground somewhere in the Dakotas. What in the world is going on folks?

 

[GSPHUNTER]

I remember teachers preaching the ozone hole caused by hairspray and the acid rain that was going to melt our skin.


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We were told stop eating snow and ice sickles because they were full of nasty stuff from the dirt atmosphere. Ruined my entire childhood.

 

[Btaylor]

We were told stop eating snow and ice sickles because they were full of nasty stuff from the dirt atmosphere. Ruined my entire childhood.

They were talking about the yellow snow werent they?

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

I remember back in the 80s watching videos of the "dead lakes" in CO that were killed by acid rain. In those cases the authors said the root cause was mineral smelting plants in the SW and the pollution they produced. When it rained the byproducts combined with the water molecules and polluted the mountain lakes allegedly.

 

[rharbaugh]

Grab a geology book and read about the temperature fluctuations over the milennia. Then apply it to now. Reach your potential!

Ya...but NASA doesn't want you to believe that.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

They were talking about the yellow snow werent they?

I was the culprit. I avoided that snow. I told my friends I spilt some sundrop soda, it was flavored snow, go for it

 

[Rich M]

I remember back in the 80s watching videos of the "dead lakes" in CO that were killed by acid rain. In those cases the authors said the root cause was mineral smelting plants in the SW and the pollution they produced. When it rained the byproducts combined with the water molecules and polluted the mountain lakes allegedly.

There were dead lakes in upper NY state as well - from the industries in the midwest. Acid rain.

Supposedly, they installed scrubbers on the tall stacks and the problem went away.

We have a power plant down here and a bunch of residential neighborhoods in the rain shadow downwind - a big law firm started sampling people's backyards and some kind of class action cause the yards were contaminated. Haven't heard anything in a couple of years - might d a search to see what's up with it.

 

[LLRJ17]

We were told stop eating snow and ice sickles because they were full of nasty stuff from the dirt atmosphere. Ruined my entire childhood.

Yup, add acid rain to the list.

 

[cmahoney]

Yup, add acid rain to the list.

I’m glad I had a father at home to tell me they were full of $hit.


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[Tmo2295]

Also don’t understand how not fully believing all the climate alarmists automatically makes you pro pollution. Majority of this community likes to keep the areas we go better off they when we arrived.

 

[mossyoak52]

But then again, we have bubba at the wheel...

And kamala is defineately a bubba,

 

[mossyoak52]

I remember back in the 80s watching videos of the "dead lakes" in CO that were killed by acid rain. In those cases the authors said the root cause was mineral smelting plants in the SW and the pollution they produced. When it rained the byproducts combined with the water molecules and polluted the mountain lakes allegedly.

Same thing happened in nys

 

[diamond10x]

“Green” energy in the context that it’s used by climate screamers is all just a play on words. Solar and wind energy are not in the least bit environmentally friendly or productive.

Why did it used to be global cooling, then there’s a hole in the ozone, then global warming, now it’s climate change... we had heating and cooling of the earth long before the burning of fossil fuels for energy.

I’ll believe in man made climate change when all the ones screaming and preaching about it sell their ridiculously expensive ocean front properties and quit telling me to buy an electric car I can’t afford while flying around the world in their multiple private jets.

 

[mossyoak52]

There were dead lakes in upper NY state as well - from the industries in the midwest. Acid rain.

There are several dead lakes they claim are dead in ny due to acid raIn quite a few of them in the pepperbox and west canada wilderness area of the adirindacks

 

[mossyoak52]

“Green” energy in the context that it’s used by climate screamers is all just a play on words. Solar and wind energy are not in the least bit environmentally friendly or productive.

Why did it used to be global cooling, then there’s a hole in the ozone, then global warming, now it’s climate change... we had heating and cooling of the earth long before the burning of fossil fuels for energy.

I’ll believe in man made climate change when all the ones screaming and preaching about it sell their ridiculously expensive ocean front properties and quit telling me to buy an electric car I can’t afford while flying around the world in their multiple private jets.

Climate change is the cause of global warming & cooling

 

[mossyoak52]

When is the last time anyone worried about meltdowns in france?

We never thought the u.s would suffer a terrorist attack in our own soil until it happened
Not a matter of if it happens but when it happens

 

[Kilboars]

I remember teachers preaching the ozone hole caused by hairspray and the acid rain that was going to melt our skin.


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Yep, scared of crap at us out of us as kids. So imagine the head job they’re doing on the kids now a days.

That’s why all this younger generation is freaking about global warming and the end of days


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[ODB]

When is the last time anyone worried about meltdowns in france?

We never thought the u.s would suffer a terrorist attack in our own soil until it happened
Not a matter of if it happens but when it happens

So you live every day as if every potential disaster might happen tomorrow?

 

[mossyoak52]

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So you live every day as if every potential disaster might happen tomorrow?

i live for today yesterday is gone and tomorrow may never get here

 

[diamond10x]

Climate change is the cause of global warming & cooling

You missed what I was saying. The 70’s it was the earth is cooling we’re all gonna freeze to death, 80’s and 90’s it was a hole in the ozone and the sun is going to fry us all, 90’s and 00’s it was global warming is going to melt all the ice and drowned us all, 10’s it is now climate change is the end of the world… it’s all hogwash. People trying to scam others for money and power.