Chris Bee Water Buffalo

[Beendare]

Personally, I get perturbed about what hunting has become due to social media…heck, not just hunting but everything.

It used to be; the guys that could do it, didn’t talk about it. Now everybody talks about it on social media, whether they can do it or not....... it’s all about your social media exposure.

Everything is monetized. CB didn’t pay for that hunt…. When you think about it, it was just a paid commercial. Its the same with a lot of these influencers...I find myself thinking, "What is their angle?" or following the money...and its usually an "Ah Ha" moment.

I know a guy that did an ad for a certain arrow and BH company talking them up and my buddy was on the same hunt where they lost a couple animals because those arrows snapped on contact and BH’s broke too.

Social media hype has wrecked hunting in some ways. Just look at elk, everyone wants to shoot a screaming elk coming to the bugle… when in reality, most hunters never see an elk up close and the bugles they are hearing are other hunters bugling every hundred yards up the trail in the woods.

 

[Ho5tile1]

Very true my dad was really good friends with a lady who did a televised fishing show with Tom man but she knew a bunch of the outdoor guys who had hunting shows and they all would talk about how they would loose tons of deer from shooting crappy arrows and broadheads but since they where being paid by them that’s what they used. Sometimes they would use there own equipment then with movie magic or editing they would show the product they where pumping in the animals.. it’s all one giant ad to sale crap…


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[Ho5tile1]

I heard that in Australia they used Chris bee’s video and played it in parliament to use as evidence to help ban bow hunting in that province in south Australia. If true and I see no reason to think it’s not then Chris and anyone else trying to kill certain animals with there light arrows because they are so fast and hung up on that crap and there need to be right owes them folks an apology. Cause as of December 1st this year it will be banned there it passed. Chris was advised not to use that junk he had and still decided he knew better then the folks who have been there done that all cause he can hit a 3d target at a 100 yards so he knows more then them. What a dame joke if I was one of those Australian people he best stay clear of me. Imagine if we could not bow hunt where we live and part of the reason was cause some YouTube punk that was told not to use a certain tool cause it doesn’t do the job as it should said nah I’m smarter then you and shoot better then you. I think someone would be pissed…I know I would I’m pissed and don’t even live in Australia and will never go there but I feel bad for them as I love to bow hunt I bow hunt even during rife season 90% of the time…


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[ddd-shooter]

I heard that in Australia they used Chris bee’s video and played it in parliament to use as evidence to help ban bow hunting in that province in south Australia. If true and I see no reason to think it’s not then Chris and anyone else trying to kill certain animals with there light arrows because they are so fast and hung up on that crap and there need to be right owes them folks an apology. Cause as of December 1st this year it will be banned there it passed. Chris was advised not to use that junk he had and still decided he knew better then the folks who have been there done that all cause he can hit a 3d target at a 100 yards so he knows more then them. What a dame joke if I was one of those Australian people he best stay clear of me. Imagine if we could not bow hunt where we live and part of the reason was cause some YouTube punk that was told not to use a certain tool cause it doesn’t do the job as it should said nah I’m smarter then you and shoot better then you. I think someone would be pissed…I know I would I’m pissed and don’t even live in Australia and will never go there but I feel bad for them as I love to bow hunt I bow hunt even during rife season 90% of the time…


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Source?

 

[Ho5tile1]

The Ashby foundation they are trying to stop the ban


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[danwattsmessick]

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[Ho5tile1]

There is a YouTube video with Ashby talking about it as well talks about the video being played in Australia


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[wyodog]

I am not giving an opinion on the Video or ethics, just on what I see after watching the film a few times. Due to your comments I watched the video again and again. I cant tell for certain that the first shot buried to the fletching but it is close to that. I can see the detail on the 2nd shot a little better though and there is only a few inches of arrow that didn't penetrate. It seems like you are seeing things differently but I am not seeing what I want to see I am seeing what is on the video. I wonder if maybe you are the one seeing what you want to see.

 

[Ho5tile1]

Or maybe you need glasses and a better screen but whatever must be a whole lot of folks seeing what they dont wanna see, Cause I sure don’t wanna see that weak penetration.

 

[CMF]

In this month’s “Ashby Newsletter” Ed Ashby and others address the consequences and concerns of the video.

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I think a lot of the critics are out of touch with reality. This is an animal that can weigh up to 1,200 lbs, has armor-like hide, and ribs that can stop a broadhead. To expect a water buffalo to magically drop dead from one arrow is absolutely bonkers. He achieved pass-through penetration. That is adequate. Period. If the animal doesn't die immediately, you keep putting arrows in it. Hunting isn't pretty and it is certainly not devoid of suffering. If you never want to see an animal suffer, stop hunting. If you have issue with the manner of this hunt, archery hunting is not for you.

Mostly agree, except I couldn't quite call it pass through from the video.
The shot placement looked good and arrow looked deep, I think it was walking dead after first shot and just a tough ass animal.

As for follow up shots, not sure what people disagree with there, they aren't great, but once you've got a lethal arrow in, you keep shooting. My first archery bull, first shot was perfect, but he started walking slowly and I kept shooting, ending up shooting 4 times with two perfect hits and two clean misses.

He didn't make any points for the arrows he's shooting, I would want clean pass-through on a broadside shot and he would have got better pen on the follow ups with heavier.

 

[Dennis]

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