Certainly worth a gander.....but don't delete it just because you don't believe it.

[bsnedeker]

God is eternal, not bound by space time or matter. He always has been and always will be. He is not confined by the limitations of man.

Well, I'm convinced!

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[Lowg08]

God is eternal, not bound by space time or matter. He always has been and always will be. He is not confined by the limitations of man.

The only god that has an origin is the ones man makes. Buddha, Ra, Diana and etc. shoot even in the biblical account it speaks of silver and gold smiths making idols or little g gods of this world. God was before time. The Bible even list five things he was doing before creation. I can’t remember them all
Off the top of my head but creating angels and having fellowship with the son. I’d have to go through my notes to find the other three

 

[Marbles]

Where did God come from? Show me proof of a God being created out of nothing.


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The uncaused cause is a problem for every theory. What came before the Big Bang? This is closer to your question about God. Life is a much smaller matter, though how it came to be is a major area of faith for evolution. The more we learn about life, the truer this becomes. Random chance may explain it, but not at odds I would bet anything on.

The simple existance of left and right handed enantiomers and the fact that life uses left handed even though both occur at the same rate when left up to chance makes the odds of even lower that a string of hundreds would form by happenstance, much less thousands. A sigle right handed enantiomer generally renders proteins none functional as they no longer fold correctly.

 

[Wvroach]

Well, I'm convinced!

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Show me a atom smaller than an eraser explode and create all matter in the universe.

Then show me that universe organized and placed precisely where it needs to be to have a planet harbor life perfectly while being shielded from the other planets acting as astroid blockers.

Let's then turn that rock mass that exploded from nothing and get water on it, I know "from the gasses" that came from nothing. Oh and then let's see it get life from nothing.

let's then See that life over billions and billions of years magically evolve in to a bacteria.

Let's then watch that bacteria evolve in to all life as we know it.....

My belief sure takes a lot less imagination than yours ...

 

[bsnedeker]

The uncaused cause is a problem for every theory. What came before the Big Bang? This is closer to your question about God. Life is a much smaller matter, though how it came to be is a major area of faith for evolution. The more we learn about life, the truer this becomes. Random chance may explain it, but not at odds I would bet anything on.

The simple existance of left and right handed enantiomers and the fact that life uses left handed even though both occur at the same rate when left up to chance makes the odds of even lower that a string of hundreds would form by happenstance, much less thousands. A sigle right handed enantiomer generally renders proteins none functional as they no longer fold correctly.

Nice try with all your science words! Dude above you said he had a book that tells him what to think... I'm going with that!

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[Lowg08]

Show me a atom smaller than an eraser explode and create all matter in the universe.

Then show me that universe organized and placed precisely where it needs to be to have a planet harbor life perfectly while being shielded from the other planets acting as astroid blockers.

Let's then turn that rock mass that exploded from nothing and get water on it, I know "from the gasses" that came from nothing. Oh and then let's see it get life from nothing.

let's then See that life over billions and billions of years magically evolve in to a bacteria.

Let's then watch that bacteria evolve in to all life as we know it.....

My belief sure takes a lot less imagination than yours ...

AMEN. atheism takes more faith than believing in God

 

[Lowg08]

Nice try with all your science words! Dude above you said he had a book that tells him what to think... I'm going with that!

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I do have books and study material and google. It doesn’t tell me what to believe no more than the books that support the other theories such as yours tells you what to believe.

 

[HighUintas]

There is more empirical evidence backing a 4billion year old earth and evolution than there is backing the existence of a god. I would love to be able to believe in one. Existence would be so much easier.

 

[Sapcut]

zJust the first scene should put things should make you think a bit.

 

[bsnedeker]

My belief sure takes a lot less imagination than yours ...

I agree with you... I'm order to conceive an infinite universe and all the possibilities contained within it takes imagination and that is clearly something you don't have.

Much easier to just read a book and blindly follow it.

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[HighUintas]

There is more empirical evidence backing a 4billion year old earth and evolution than there is backing the existence of a god. I would love to be able to believe in one. Existence would be so much easier.

Not saying thetr isn't one. There might be. But I don't take the bible to be true, much at all other than some of the folks and places existing.

 

[Sapcut]

Please do, even my ultra christian buddy was like "the species changed after the got to where they were going".....so evolution??? How could all of those animals been in one place, then the ark supposedly had a final resting place which would indicate that all the animals got off there.

I tend to believe that mose "miracles" in the bible can be easily explained....walking on water? ice....feeding thousands of people with 2 fish.....giant sturgeon or whales. Turning water into wine? maybe diluting wine with water so there was more to go around. The ark thing though.....

One possible easy explanation, should one be required, is that everything God did wasn't recorded. Perhaps he made more animals after he destroyed every living creature except what Noah was commanded to take with him.

 

[Sapcut]

I would love to be able to believe in one.

Really?

Existence would be so much easier.

You are soooo right.

 

[Wvroach]

I agree with you... I'm order to conceive an infinite universe and all the possibilities contained within it takes imagination and that is clearly something you don't have.

Much easier to just read a book and blindly follow it.

Where did you get indoctrinated with the evolution theory from? Oh that's right.... Books.

Side note, the bible is not "a book" it is the compilation of 66 different books, written by over 40 different authors over 1500 years in 3 different continents. Pointing to one god, one messiah and one salvation.

 

[Lowg08]

Not saying thetr isn't one. There might be. But I don't take the bible to be true, much at all other than some of the folks and places existing.

I’m not sure if you know this but there is more evidence supporting the Bible than any other documented books or historical happenings. For example little is known about the Mayans but do you believe what you know?

 

[Lowg08]

So your saying a book that has multiple secular and pagan documents that corroborate it’s accuracy you don’t believe. So 523+\- people with an eye witness account of a risen Jesus after death document by Jewish historians in whom had Jesus crucified are all liars.

 

[Sapcut]

There is more empirical evidence backing a 4billion year old earth and evolution than there is backing the existence of a god.

Don't think so. What is having information about evolution when the same brains have ZERO information about the actual origin of life, aside from how God explains the origin of life.

And the way God explains it might just explain exactly why the smartest brains on the planet cannot come close to explaining it.....

"By faith, we understand that the universe has been framed by the word of God, so that what is seen has not been made out of things which are visible. Hebrews 11:3

 

[FLATHEAD]

I think most people choose to not believe because it would not fit their lifestyle.
Truly sad.

 

[Lowg08]

There is more empirical evidence backing a 4billion year old earth and evolution than there is backing the existence of a god. I would love to be able to believe in one. Existence would be so much easier.

Yea. I’m going with no. My 12 year old can poke holes in evolution without my direction or advice. I will even leave you a Darwin quote. “
If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down” Charles Darwin from the origin of a species

 

[Lowg08]

I think most people choose to not believe because it would not fit their lifestyle.
Truly sad.

Boy now let me tell you that is truth there. I could preach a whole sermon on that.