Certainly worth a gander.....but don't delete it just because you don't believe it.

[thinhorn_AK]

This is an incredible post.

Yes, but not for the reason the guy typing it wanted it to be.

 

[Lowg08]

There have been many huge floods during antiquity. Tell me more about how some dirt farmer built a boat and but millions of animals on it. Did he have Dall sheep roaming around to put on the boat? how about polar bears and elk.....

Yes. He did. We should have a zoom call
It’s easier to explain and show you the documents I have discovered over the years.

 

[Lowg08]

Yes, but not for the reason the guy typing it wanted it to be.

Nope but it’s still an intriguing conversation. I am enjoying minus. I’d rather just be able to share and not type. Lol.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

This is actually not true. As a new converted Muslim in a country shut off from missionaries. They have dreams of Jesus. I could send you a book if you like. The invisible war or why I believe. I have times of literature. Allot of secular text support biblical claims. Chinese scrolls, Josephus and many more

And those books were written by men who inked their beliefs on their predisposed beliefs.

 

[Marbles]

I’d say that is a drastic change but we would have noticed Everest rising. For another example. Joshua asked for a longer day was recorded in Chinese scrolls during the reign of emperor yeo

And the wording of that passage was used to argue for a flat earth and condemn men who discussed proof of a spherical earth to death.

God was not writting a science text book when he inspired the bible, and like every good writer he would use words and perspectives his audience could understand.

 

[Lowg08]

And those books were written by men who inked their beliefs on their predisposed beliefs.

No Josephus was a Jew and scrolls were written and recorded as they happened. No predisposition.

 

[Wvroach]

Tell me more about how some dirt farmer built a boat and but millions of animals on it. Did he have Dall sheep roaming around to put on the boat? how about polar bears and elk.....

This is what most people have been programmed to believe. That men thousands of years ago were completely inept, yet those same people will marvel about the structures, buildings and achievements of ancient man.


It would be really great if people would actually be willing to at least hear the opposition out instead of ad hominem and baseless attacks about things that weren't even the initial subject.

 

[HighUintas]

Why did Noah have to leave dinos to extinction? That's so disappointing! He couldn't have spared just a single room or two for the small ones and left the friggin wolves behind?

I am going to have to look up the soft tissue in dino fossils information. I haven't heard anything about it but would like to get some info from someone other than those that believe Jesus' daily driver was a brontosaurus.

Btw, John the Baptist was the OG magician.

 

[Lowg08]

And the wording of that passage was used to argue for a flat earth and condemn men who discussed proof of a spherical earth to death.

God was not writting a science text book when he inspired the bible, and like every good writer he would use words and perspectives his audience could understand.

Translation actually hurts it allot on for another example to give insight. When the KJV was translated it was in kings English with over shadowing. We see servant. It was actually slave all but two times so. We have to go back to original language and context. It’s a matter of digging. Actually lee strobel is a great apologist who was on a mission to prove God didn’t exists when he was an atheist. This led him to Christ. Lee Strobel was an atheist

 

[thinhorn_AK]

This is what most people have been programmed to believe. That men thousands of years ago were completely inept, yet those same people will marvel about the structures, buildings and achievements of ancient man.


It would be really great if people would actually be willing to at least hear the opposition out instead of ad hominem and baseless attacks about things that weren't even the initial subject.

How many species of animals are there of living things on this earth? Were there Polar bears, Dall sheep, Rocky Mountain Elk, Lions, Mammoths, Sharks, Grey Whales there on Noahs farm?

Serious question...

 

[Lowg08]

Why did Noah have to leave dinos to extinction? That's so disappointing! He couldn't have spared just a single room or two for the small ones and left the friggin wolves behind?

I am going to have to look up the soft tissue in dino fossils information. I haven't heard anything about it but would like to get some info from someone other than those that believe Jesus' daily driver was a brontosaurus.

Btw, John the Baptist was the OG magician.

Oh wow. If you think of it. Dinosaurs have eggs. Could have easily been on the ark. In job it speaks of a behemoth and leviathan. Most likely a brontosaurus and mosasaurus.
I will also be looking at the soft tissue as well. Thank you guys for new insights I must study.

 

[Lowg08]

How many species of animals are there of living things on this earth? Were there Polar bears, Dall sheep, Rocky Mountain Elk, Lions, Mammoths, Sharks, Grey Whales there on Noahs farm?

Serious question...

I’m taking all your questions serious. It wouldn’t have necessarily been a farm BUT I Do not and have not looked at this question. If you don’t mind I would like some time to look into this before I answer your question. A wrong answer is worse than a the best answer I can find that has corroborated evidence that can stand the testing of it.

 

[bsnedeker]

Also, are you really arguing that the earth was covered in 5.5 miles of water (referenced to current sea level) and that water just disappeared in 377 days? Where did it go?

Umm....clearly Jesus turned it into wine! Read the Bible you Godless heathen!

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I’m taking all your questions serious. It wouldn’t have necessarily been a farm BUT I Do not and have not looked at this question. If you don’t mind I would like some time to look into this before I answer your question. A wrong answer is worse than a the best answer I can find that has corroborated evidence that can stand the testing of it.

Please do, even my ultra christian buddy was like "the species changed after the got to where they were going".....so evolution??? How could all of those animals been in one place, then the ark supposedly had a final resting place which would indicate that all the animals got off there.

I tend to believe that mose "miracles" in the bible can be easily explained....walking on water? ice....feeding thousands of people with 2 fish.....giant sturgeon or whales. Turning water into wine? maybe diluting wine with water so there was more to go around. The ark thing though.....

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Oh wow. If you think of it. Dinosaurs have eggs. Could have easily been on the ark. In job it speaks of a behemoth and leviathan. Most likely a brontosaurus and mosasaurus.
I will also be looking at the soft tissue as well. Thank you guys for new insights I must study.

WAsn't the leviathon metaphorical?

 

[roadrunner]

There have been many huge floods during antiquity. Tell me more about how some dirt farmer built a boat and but millions of animals on it. Did he have Dall sheep roaming around to put on the boat? how about polar bears and elk.....

We have many species today based a genetic "kind". All dog breeds today stem from one "kind". Millions of animals were not put on a boat.

Polar bears would come from another bear. An ice age is explainable after a large global scale flood event.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

We have many species today based a genetic "kind". All dog breeds today stem from one "kind". Millions of animals were not put on a boat.

Polar bears would come from another bear. An ice age is explainable after a large global scale flood event.

So evolution occured?

Id imagine a flood was far more likely at the end of an ice age than to cause an ice age.

 

[HighUintas]

Noah's favorite hobby was model ship building? His second favorite hobby was mushroom foraging and licking toads?

 

[Lowg08]

WAsn't the leviathon metaphorical?

Not in this case it gave an exact description. In seminary hermeneutical dissection says it’s a must to first read the Bible with a literal interpretation. What it says is what it says.

 

[Marbles]

Translation actually hurts it allot on for another example to give insight. When the KJV was translated it was in kings English with over shadowing. We see servant. It was actually slave all but two times so. We have to go back to original language and context. It’s a matter of digging. Actually lee strobel is a great apologist who was on a mission to prove God didn’t exists when he was an atheist. This led him to Christ. Lee Strobel was an atheist

Yeah, but the people doing the exicuting read the language of the original. As a linguist I can tell you language is a slippery thing that involves both creation of a message and interpretation. Even a divine and perfect wording would have to have divinely inspired interpretation.

Plus, now you are arguing that God is too small to get his point across via interpreters and that anything other than the original language cannot be trusted as the word of God. Yet, I will definitive state word searching does not give the same linguistics understanding as speaking the language. Further, languages change over time. So, I guess it was only the word of God for contemporaries of the writers.

It is faith, trying to remove faith is to lay a trap for yourself.