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KurtR

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Love that the supreme court just gave the middle finger to Biden. This ahole is starting to think he is the next Hitler or Stalin. About time we put him in his place, limited government is central to the foundation of our success
Biden doesnt know if he is eating ice cream or pooping his pants. There are a bunch of puppet masters behind him just telling him what to do and then giving him a double scoop of rocky road to keep him occupied
 
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Alright so you'd be comfortable providing antibody titers to your employer in lieu of a vaccine?

And if your titers dropped below protective levels, then what?

Not to belabor this…but in a distant future, when objectivity regains hold, I have a feeling a conclusion will be reached that the too-perfect mrna vaxxes prolonged the whole thing. May have prevented an enormous number of deaths on the front end, but prolonged it just the same due to its leaky nature. Viruses aren’t perfect, and when they replicate they are even less so. Jabbing folks with exactly the same virus profiles did a good job of matching that profile, but a poor job of subsequent variants. Even the EU and WHO are questioning the wisdom/effectiveness of never ending boosters.

In the meantime, as a jabbed dude who has Covid at this moment, that I got from my jabbed wife who got it from a jabbed and boosted co-worker, all I know is everyone is getting this. I’m just glad it’s 91% less deadly than Delta.
 

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Not to belabor this…but in a distant future, when objectivity regains hold, I have a feeling a conclusion will be reached that the too-perfect mrna vaxxes prolonged the whole thing. May have prevented an enormous number of deaths on the front end, but prolonged it just the same due to its leaky nature. Viruses aren’t perfect, and when they replicate they are even less so. Jabbing folks with exactly the same virus profiles did a good job of matching that profile, but a poor job of subsequent variants. Even the EU and WHO are questioning the wisdom/effectiveness of never ending boosters.

In the meantime, as a jabbed dude who has Covid at this moment, that I got from my jabbed wife who got it from a jabbed and boosted co-worker, all I know is everyone is getting this. I’m just glad it’s 91% less deadly than Delta.
I have a feeling that when "objectivity" returns, if it ever does, a whole lot more things besides the vaccines are going to be known.

91% less deadly than an initial virus that had a mortality rate of less than 1%, and that's if ( a BIG, if) you believe the numbers we are being given!

I'm ready for the truth about everything going on for the last 5 years to be known, heads need to roll, and we need to get back to being 'Merica, F**K YEAH.
 

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Alright so you'd be comfortable providing antibody titers to your employer in lieu of a vaccine?

And if your titers dropped below protective levels, then what?
How about we leave people alone before the entire country goes full Atlas Shrugged and guys like me who fix things go on unemployment? Then all the academics and law makers can see if they can figure out how a toilet works or how to do an oil change.
 

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How about we leave people alone before the entire country goes full Atlas Shrugged and guys like me who fix things go on unemployment? Then all the academics and law makers can see if they can figure out how a toilet works or how to do an oil change.
Because that's an empty power fantasy based on a poorly written novel by a woman who died penniless and relying on unemployment.

But hey maybe I'm wrong. You can start any time. Nobody's stopping you.
 

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How about we leave people alone before the entire country goes full Atlas Shrugged and guys like me who fix things go on unemployment? Then all the academics and law makers can see if they can figure out how a toilet works or how to do an oil change.
Academia is worthless nowadays. Data scientists and statisticians are useless positions. Blue collar’s truly keep the country moving. We live in reality and build the world for the rest of the people to either not work in, or play on computers all day trying to find hidden meaning behind a nanobyte.
 

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A million new cases a day is making all of these moot.
But, but, but.......it's the unvaccinated that's spreading it. SMH

I do find it interesting that some people believe that the circumstances determine the constitutionality of things (i.e. "there are 100k children in the hospital", "there are people dying every day", "the hospitals are being filled"). Ya, those are all great little tidbits of information, but change nothing in regards to the constitutionality in the case.

It's pretty apparent as well that even some SCOTUS members base constitutionality on circumstances rather than......constitutionality. That's like ruling that the government "can" infringe on the 2nd "if" enough people are getting shot. Constitutionality is an absolute......regardless of the circumstances. Otherwise there would be no need for the Constitution, and they could just make it all up as they go.
 

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But, but, but.......it's the unvaccinated that's spreading it. SMH

I do find it interesting that some people believe that the circumstances determine the constitutionality of things (i.e. "there are 100k children in the hospital", "there are people dying every day", "the hospitals are being filled"). Ya, those are all great little tidbits of information, but change nothing in regards to the constitutionality in the case.

It's pretty apparent as well that even some SCOTUS members base constitutionality on circumstances rather than......constitutionality. That's like ruling that the government "can" infringe on the 2nd "if" enough people are getting shot. Constitutionality is an absolute......regardless of the circumstances. Otherwise there would be no need for the Constitution, and they could just make it all up as they go.
I agree here, but the problem is public-private relationships now. Government and big corporations are in bed 100% now. Lock step. In all sectors - financial, medical, energy, etc.
Like how mom and pop force closed but Home Depot and Walmart are open.

This is the great reset. These gov-big corp relationships executing plans in lock step. And the loser is us. This is the road to modern day serfdom.
It is the perfect work around to the constitution and traditional laws because it’s essentially big corp executing the will of the ruling class. The government doesn’t actually have to create and implement laws anymore. That whole constitution thing gets in the way too much.
I know I’m a broken record but people really need to read about the great reset because it’s going to enslave us all. Red or blue - this is a unifying issue
 
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Because that's an empty power fantasy based on a poorly written novel by a woman who died penniless and relying on unemployment.
Not true.
She was 77 at the time of her death and had a history of cancer. Was she supposed to still be working? No. That is retirement age.
She was collecting SS and was on Medicare (all of which she paid into.) but not unemployment or welfare.
And she wasn't penniless either.
NY Times: Ayn Rand Left 500k to 1 million estate

That is just a common smear to discredit her.
She may have been a little over the top on her anti-socialist views, but living in and experiencing Soviet Russia will do that to a person.
 

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Small employer in California. We don't impose a vax mandate because it's supposed to be a free country. Hopefully some of you folks who were terminated for taking a stand come to work with us because you're exactly the kind of people we want to hire.
 
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Small employer in California. We don't impose a vax mandate because it's supposed to be a free country. Hopefully some of you folks who were terminated for taking a stand come to work with us because you're exactly the kind of people we want to hire.
Hope you allow remote working. Convincing people to move to California might be difficult. Love what you are doing, but you are working in the Lions Den
 

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Hope you allow remote working. Convincing people to move to California might be difficult. Love what you are doing, but you are working in the Lions Den
Yeah, moreso talking about the people in California than those in other states. It's hard to find good people everywhere, but especially hard to find them here. We have our business reasons for being here right now but it won't be forever.
 

JJJ

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Yeah, moreso talking about the people in California than those in other states. It's hard to find good people everywhere, but especially hard to find them here. We have our business reasons for being here right now but it won't be forever.
What type of business?
 
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