Any Espresso Junkies?

[renagde]

Nothing about espresso can be justified. Once you realize that the world is your oyster.

How do you like the Philos?

So far I've been impressed with it at it's price point. So knock it for it's size but it fits on my counter fine so that isn't an issue for me. It's quiet and has extremely low retention and static. I had a pair of SSP HU burrs laying around so I put those in and have really been liking the results so far. I would say it has a Niche like workflow with the advantages of a flat burr grinder.

 

[parshal]

The K30 isn't a small grinder and only fits under a counter with the short hopper and then barely.

Watched a video on the Philos and it certainly looks like a nice grinder especially at that price. It does seems quite slow. The K30 will grind a 20 grams in under 3.3 seconds.

 

[renagde]

The K30 isn't a small grinder and only fits under a counter with the short hopper and then barely.

Watched a video on the Philos and it certainly looks like a nice grinder especially at that price. It does seems quite slow. The K30 will grind a 20 grams in under 3.3 seconds.

By those standards, yes it's slow. I think the motor is probably twice as big and you're running at a little higher RPM. Generally I would say the Philos can grind a 18 gram shot in around 10 seconds but I've never timed it. The SSP burrs grinder noticeably quicker than the I200D burrs though.

 

[bradmacmt]

Actually have. And have lots of friends that use them. You can’t even compare that machine to a stand alone grinder. It’s apples and oranges. Have you ever owned a HX machine or a dual boiler machine with a stand alone grinder, lets say any of the flat burr single dose grinders.

I seriously doubt you've owned one. Yup, have had and used Jura and Meile and have drunk espresso all over the world since long before you were born. You're just repeating nonsense you picked up on the internet. Good espresso isn't that hard, and a decent grind isn't that hard. Quality beans are no. 1.

 

[renagde]

I seriously doubt you've owned one. Yup, have had and used Jura and Meile and have drunk espresso all over the world since long before you were born. You're just repeating nonsense you picked up on the internet. Good espresso isn't that hard, and a decent grind isn't that hard. Quality beans are no. 1.

lol ok, not sure what your point is. If you're happy with your Breville, good on you.

 

[Huntindog45]

How are the $1,000 range at home all in one units? I was looking at the Bosch with the built in grinder and milk frother for my wife.

we just bought the Breville and I really like it so far. I am learning.

 

[mlevimadden]

Should have worded that differently. I'm wanting to buy roasted whole beans. Better quality than the store bought stuff but still economical to drink.

Check out https://www.craftcoffee.com/

We've been on their subscription for a couple years and it's so much better than grocery store coffee for the same price of $8/bag. You can try some different coffees at first and see what roast style you like, then just set a subscription for 4 bags at whatever interval you will go through them.

They roast it a few days before they ship it out and it's very good coffee for the price.

 

[HighUintas]

In keeping with rokslide fashion, i made an effort to keep up with the Smiths and roasted some coffee for my espresso machine with my shitty half melted and coffee-abused air popcorn popper. My roasting knowledge and skills had to be dug up from the depths. I haven't done it in a few years and the roast time of 3 minutes gives little margin for error. So I ended up with 4 different roasts out of a pound of green beans.

 

[CJ19]

In keeping with rokslide fashion, i made an effort to keep up with the Smiths and roasted some coffee for my espresso machine with my shitty half melted and coffee-abused air popcorn popper. My roasting knowledge and skills had to be dug up from the depths. I haven't done it in a few years and the roast time of 3 minutes gives little margin for error. So I ended up with 4 different roasts out of a pound of green beans.

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are those ultra light beans? looks good. i dont roast my own but whole bean fresh ground is the only way to go imo.

 

[HighUintas]

are those ultra light beans? looks good. i dont roast my own but whole bean fresh ground is the only way to go imo.

The darkest/oily beans would be ultralight.... Less weight per bean

Yes, the first bag on the left is the lightest. It's not the lightest acceptable roast, though they do look very light relative to the most commonly available stuff like Starbucks. I like to shoot for a medium light, which is the 2nd from left. You typically get more flavors from the bean that are related to their origin, growing conditions, and processing whereas the darker it gets the more of that flavor is driven off and it starts tasting burnt-ish. I don't expect the 4th bag will be very good; it will probably be very ashy tasting.

 

[LostArra]

In keeping with rokslide fashion, i made an effort to keep up with the Smiths and roasted some coffee for my espresso machine with my shitty half melted and coffee-abused air popcorn popper. My roasting knowledge and skills had to be dug up from the depths. I haven't done it in a few years and the roast time of 3 minutes gives little margin for error. So I ended up with 4 different roasts out of a pound of green beans.

Sounds like you borrowed my roaster I've owned a few of the smaller dedicated air coffee roasters and none of them hold up like the Westbend Poppery II. The lids do get ugly.

3 minutes is fast. If you did a pound in 4 batches you might reduce the amount of beans per batch. It takes at least 5 batches/lb for me at 4:45-5:15 per batch, first batch always the longest especially in cold weather. I like a Full City roast with minimal or no second crack. Zero oil. I've also found that different electric plugs in my house will roast differently, some slow, some fast. I finally found the one in my garage that gives me a consistent result.

I've not had great luck roasting dry processed beans. Sweet Maria's sent out a tutorial about the difference but it wasn't worth the effort for me especially using a popper.

 

[Davyalabama]

Ok, maybe I'm on the wrong thread for you "junkies/aficianados," we don't get into the roasting, grinding, etc. We are more quick and cheap, but still wanting some good espresso type folks.

I noticed some didn't want to spend a lot on one, we have a couple, well three nespressos that use a pod. We have a Nespresso Virtuo Delux (bought on black Friday) (not really worth the extra money for me, wife likes the look and the frother), and a couple nespresso virtuo plus machines (right now about $140 on Am$%^&). We use the nespresso pods, just buy the bundles, and in a matter of a minute or so, we have quality (to us) espresso.

 

[Idaboy]

Jura. No one else comes close.

We used to love Jura, had a great little machine for 15 yrs, crapped out...they have great customer service and gave us a discount on a new midrange model...tastes like s}#%....tried 4 different bean varieties, coarse to fine grind, strong to weak brew amd everything in between. After 2 weeks of tastless coffee or something that was terrible bitter and burdt we unfortunately gave up and sent it back.....researching now....following this thread

 

[HighUintas]

Sounds like you borrowed my roaster I've owned a few of the smaller dedicated air coffee roasters and none of them hold up like the Westbend Poppery II. The lids do get ugly.

3 minutes is fast. If you did a pound in 4 batches you might reduce the amount of beans per batch. It takes at least 5 batches/lb for me at 4:45-5:15 per batch, first batch always the longest especially in cold weather. I like a Full City roast with minimal or no second crack. Zero oil. I've also found that different electric plugs in my house will roast differently, some slow, some fast. I finally found the one in my garage that gives me a consistent result.

I've not had great luck roasting dry processed beans. Sweet Maria's sent out a tutorial about the difference but it wasn't worth the effort for me especially using a popper.

I actually did it in 5 batches, 3.2oz per batch. That's as much as I can do without losing a bunch out the spout as it darkens and gets blown around more. I was outside in 30F weather and they still finished in 3-3:20. This popper is an Aldi brand, I think and it runs friggin hot. I had thought about getting a couple 50ft extension cords to drop the power a bit, but was lazy. I was considering getting that glass cover from sweet Maria's that looks like a kerosene lamp globe. That would let me put 4oz in and slow it down a bit.

Ok, maybe I'm on the wrong thread for you "junkies/aficianados," we don't get into the roasting, grinding, etc. We are more quick and cheap, but still wanting some good espresso type folks.

I noticed some didn't want to spend a lot on one, we have a couple, well three nespressos that use a pod. We have a Nespresso Virtuo Delux (bought on black Friday) (not really worth the extra money for me, wife likes the look and the frother), and a couple nespresso virtuo plus machines (right now about $140 on Am$%^&). We use the nespresso pods, just buy the bundles, and in a matter of a minute or so, we have quality (to us) espresso.

I'm not the OP, but I'd say all are welcome who enjoy tweaking out on espresso haha

 

[GSPHUNTER]

I'll have a large coffee, black, thank you. $2.50 vs $8

 

[BBob]

I was considering getting that glass cover

See if you can find the right diameter metal can to fit. I took a small can and sliced it vertically then spot welded it back together at the right diameter to fit perfect. I fit it slightly snug so it doesn’t move but you can pull it out.

 

[HighUintas]

I'll have a large coffee, black, thank you. $2.50 vs $8

Mine costs about $1.10 per cup when roasting it

 

[parshal]

I've wanted to roast but I suspect I'd be dialing in my grinder every single time I used a new roast. I already waste a bunch if I change coffee so I've been using the same bean for years.

 

[LostArra]

I'll have a large coffee, black, thank you. $2.50 vs $8

$8 buys a pound of green coffee beans. I can roast that pound in under 30 minutes. No foamy milk for me either.

I see roasting coffee and home brewing beer (another hobby of mine) as similar to hand loading ammo. Probably not necessary but you did get exactly what you want.

I'm not a coffee or beer snob. I can pound a thermos of truck stop coffee on a long road trip or even a good instant when camping but Folgers just does not agree with me.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

Been running a Breville Barista Touch for around 5 years now. Its been virtually issue free with regular maintenance. Excellent piece of equipment and consistent cups every time.

We buy/have shipped bulk 5 pound bags of roasted beans from Freidrichs Coffee. Our favorite is their Home Fire Espresso. It's a great work horse that makes the best "breve" (half and half only, none of that 2% or skinny $hit) lattes around.