Any Espresso Junkies?

[renagde]

Nothing about espresso can be justified. Once you realize that the world is your oyster.

How do you like the Philos?

So far I've been impressed with it at it's price point. So knock it for it's size but it fits on my counter fine so that isn't an issue for me. It's quiet and has extremely low retention and static. I had a pair of SSP HU burrs laying around so I put those in and have really been liking the results so far. I would say it has a Niche like workflow with the advantages of a flat burr grinder.

 

[parshal]

The K30 isn't a small grinder and only fits under a counter with the short hopper and then barely.

Watched a video on the Philos and it certainly looks like a nice grinder especially at that price. It does seems quite slow. The K30 will grind a 20 grams in under 3.3 seconds.

 

[renagde]

The K30 isn't a small grinder and only fits under a counter with the short hopper and then barely.

Watched a video on the Philos and it certainly looks like a nice grinder especially at that price. It does seems quite slow. The K30 will grind a 20 grams in under 3.3 seconds.

By those standards, yes it's slow. I think the motor is probably twice as big and you're running at a little higher RPM. Generally I would say the Philos can grind a 18 gram shot in around 10 seconds but I've never timed it. The SSP burrs grinder noticeably quicker than the I200D burrs though.

 

[bradmacmt]

Actually have. And have lots of friends that use them. You can’t even compare that machine to a stand alone grinder. It’s apples and oranges. Have you ever owned a HX machine or a dual boiler machine with a stand alone grinder, lets say any of the flat burr single dose grinders.

I seriously doubt you've owned one. Yup, have had and used Jura and Meile and have drunk espresso all over the world since long before you were born. You're just repeating nonsense you picked up on the internet. Good espresso isn't that hard, and a decent grind isn't that hard. Quality beans are no. 1.

 

[renagde]

I seriously doubt you've owned one. Yup, have had and used Jura and Meile and have drunk espresso all over the world since long before you were born. You're just repeating nonsense you picked up on the internet. Good espresso isn't that hard, and a decent grind isn't that hard. Quality beans are no. 1.

lol ok, not sure what your point is. If you're happy with your Breville, good on you.

 

[Huntindog45]

How are the $1,000 range at home all in one units? I was looking at the Bosch with the built in grinder and milk frother for my wife.

we just bought the Breville and I really like it so far. I am learning.

 

[mlevimadden]

Should have worded that differently. I'm wanting to buy roasted whole beans. Better quality than the store bought stuff but still economical to drink.

Check out https://www.craftcoffee.com/

We've been on their subscription for a couple years and it's so much better than grocery store coffee for the same price of $8/bag. You can try some different coffees at first and see what roast style you like, then just set a subscription for 4 bags at whatever interval you will go through them.

They roast it a few days before they ship it out and it's very good coffee for the price.

 

[HighUintas]

In keeping with rokslide fashion, i made an effort to keep up with the Smiths and roasted some coffee for my espresso machine with my shitty half melted and coffee-abused air popcorn popper. My roasting knowledge and skills had to be dug up from the depths. I haven't done it in a few years and the roast time of 3 minutes gives little margin for error. So I ended up with 4 different roasts out of a pound of green beans.

 

[CJ19]

In keeping with rokslide fashion, i made an effort to keep up with the Smiths and roasted some coffee for my espresso machine with my shitty half melted and coffee-abused air popcorn popper. My roasting knowledge and skills had to be dug up from the depths. I haven't done it in a few years and the roast time of 3 minutes gives little margin for error. So I ended up with 4 different roasts out of a pound of green beans.

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are those ultra light beans? looks good. i dont roast my own but whole bean fresh ground is the only way to go imo.

 

[HighUintas]

are those ultra light beans? looks good. i dont roast my own but whole bean fresh ground is the only way to go imo.

The darkest/oily beans would be ultralight.... Less weight per bean

Yes, the first bag on the left is the lightest. It's not the lightest acceptable roast, though they do look very light relative to the most commonly available stuff like Starbucks. I like to shoot for a medium light, which is the 2nd from left. You typically get more flavors from the bean that are related to their origin, growing conditions, and processing whereas the darker it gets the more of that flavor is driven off and it starts tasting burnt-ish. I don't expect the 4th bag will be very good; it will probably be very ashy tasting.