All things .308 Win

[Timplant]

My latest 308 - Springfield Armory Boundary w/ 20" fluted barrel that mic's .735" at the muzzle. With Scope, sling and 4 rounds it weigh's 8lbs 9oz's. A nice compromise between packability and "settledownness" for the shot.

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how does it shoot?? They are such nice rifles!!!

 

[Ajsomp]

I know this has been discussed, but maybe you can save me a search. I wish the 6x worked for my tired eyes. Had some difficulty making out the hash marks on the 6x. Is the 10x any better? Thinking of trying one of those next. Otherwise, seems the 3-9x and 3-15x work better for me, but can't afford to outfit all my rifles that way. Thinking of outfitting one of my 308s as a "utility" rifle with a 10x SWFA, rather than strictly for hunting.

It’s interesting you say you can’t make out the hash marks on the 6x since they are the same as the 3-9.

I just had all three out doing a little low light comparison as the sun set and I had mixed lighting into the woods. The 3-9 was by far the winner in this condition. But at 6x both the 3-9 and 6x were the same for my eyes in bracketing a stump. The 10x was still useable, but noticeably darker in the same conditions. The 10x has the hollow diamonds which I’m not a huge fan of, but seem to work just fine. If you’ve used the 3-15 you know what I’m referring to vs the 3-9 and 6x MQ.

 

[Lonewolf72]

It’s interesting you say you can’t make out the hash marks on the 6x since they are the same as the 3-9.

I just had all three out doing a little low light comparison as the sun set and I had mixed lighting into the woods. The 3-9 was by far the winner in this condition. But at 6x both the 3-9 and 6x were the same for my eyes in bracketing a stump. The 10x was still useable, but noticeably darker in the same conditions. The 10x has the hollow diamonds which I’m not a huge fan of, but seem to work just fine. If you’ve used the 3-15 you know what I’m referring to vs the 3-9 and 6x MQ.

Thank you for your assessment. I will take this into consideration at next purchase. I wear glasses, and it seems there are challenges with doing so for me and using a scope (esp. In getting the reticle in focus, and yes I know how to use the diopter). It has been awhile since I looked through a 6x, and I've had 2-3 prescription changes in that time, so maybe I need to try the 6x again.

 

[Wacko]

I know this has been discussed, but maybe you can save me a search. I wish the 6x worked for my tired eyes. Had some difficulty making out the hash marks on the 6x. Is the 10x any better? Thinking of trying one of those next. Otherwise, seems the 3-9x and 3-15x work better for me, but can't afford to outfit all my rifles that way. Thinking of outfitting one of my 308s as a "utility" rifle with a 10x SWFA, rather than strictly for hunting. I'm sold on SWFA scopes for the price, after my 3-15x took a beating on the hunt this year and remained zeroed/functional.

JMHO....I sold my 6x's and went to the 10x's. I could no longer make out the reticle on the 6x. The 10x - for me of course - I can make it out just fine.

I'd look through one to see for yourself.

 

[Lonewolf72]

JMHO....I sold my 6x's and went to the 10x's. I could no longer make out the reticle on the 6x. The 10x - for me of course - I can make it out just fine.

I'd look through one to see for yourself.

Maybe I'm not crazy then? But that too is debatable . I might have to order both 6x and 10x and see for myself.

 

[Mac308]

how does it shoot?? They are such nice rifles!!!

No idea - I just got it put together. I'm no much on winter range work lol. I'll find out this spring what it can do though!

 

[Hondo64d]

Shot this sow this evening at 260 yards with a 168gr TMK launched at about 2700 fps. She was quartering away and I hit he where you see the muddy spot on her side and the bullet exited just behind the opposite shoulder. Exit wound was not large. At the shot, she dropped in her tracks, was down for a couple of seconds, then was up running. She ran in a large circle and went down almost where she was when I shot her. A mature sow, but not huge. Maybe 120 pounds? I didn’t feel like opening her up for an autopsy. Might shoot a coyote off her in a day or so.

John

 

[BLJ]

Sierra 30 Cal (.308") 168gr HPBT Tipped MatchKing (TMK) Bullets - Raven Rocks Precision

Sierra 30 cal 168gr HPBT Tipped MatchKing Bullets (TMK) for loading precision rifle ammunition for 30 caliber rifles.

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Sierra 30 Cal (.308") 175gr HPBT Tipped MatchKing (TMK) Bullets - Raven Rocks Precision

Sierra 30 cal 175gr HPBT Tipped MatchKing Bullets (TMK) for loading precision rifle ammunition for 30 caliber rifles.

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1k box’s that have been split up. Pretty cheap.

Raven Rocks is GTG.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Just wondering if you think you would get those MV with 16.5” barrels? I saw the 308 load is a nosler boxed ammo. I just assumed their MV was from a 22-24” test barrel. So 2850-2950 rough estimate for the 308 load? Will that get you to 400 yards at a proper impact velocity?

I haven’t done any further research into other ammo or load data, so it’s a real question.

Following up on this, I got the rifle. It’s shooting the 125s at 2850 fps, 1.5” group at 200 yds. I’m surprised at how accurate the 16.5” 1:10 combo is.

 

[Ajsomp]

Shot this sow this evening at 260 yards with a 168gr TMK launched at about 2700 fps. She was quartering away and I hit he where you see the muddy spot on her side and the bullet exited just behind the opposite shoulder. Exit wound was not large. At the shot, she dropped in her tracks, was down for a couple of seconds, then was up running. She ran in a large circle and went down almost where she was when I shot her. A mature sow, but not huge. Maybe 120 pounds? I didn’t feel like opening her up for an autopsy. Might shoot a coyote off her in a day or so.

John

What shooting sticks are those?

 

[sierracharlie338]

Following up on this, I got the rifle. It’s shooting the 125s at 2850 fps, 1.5” group at 200 yds. I’m surprised at how accurate the 16.5” 1:10 combo is.

I’ve seen it do plenty of work! Glad it’s shooting well for you.

 

[Hondo64d]

What shooting sticks are those?

Bogpod, if I recall correctly.

John

 

[Hondo64d]

Sierra 30 Cal (.308") 168gr HPBT Tipped MatchKing (TMK) Bullets - Raven Rocks Precision

Sierra 30 cal 168gr HPBT Tipped MatchKing Bullets (TMK) for loading precision rifle ammunition for 30 caliber rifles.

ravenrocksprecision.com

Sierra 30 Cal (.308") 175gr HPBT Tipped MatchKing (TMK) Bullets - Raven Rocks Precision

Sierra 30 cal 175gr HPBT Tipped MatchKing Bullets (TMK) for loading precision rifle ammunition for 30 caliber rifles.

ravenrocksprecision.com

1k box’s that have been split up. Pretty cheap.

Raven Rocks is GTG.

I ordered and received 500 of the 168s. I didn’t recognize from the description at the time I ordered, that these are not TMKs. These are a tipped version of the SMK, with a much lower BC than the TMK. TMK on the left and Tipped SMK on the right.

John

 

[NWBLKTAIL]

I ordered and received 500 of the 168s. I didn’t recognize from the description at the time I ordered, that these are not TMKs. These are a tipped version of the SMK, with a much lower BC than the TMK. TMK on the left and Tipped SMK on the right.

John

Good catch I had these nearly ordered a few times

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

I ordered and received 500 of the 168s. I didn’t recognize from the description at the time I ordered, that these are not TMKs. These are a tipped version of the SMK, with a much lower BC than the TMK. TMK on the left and Tipped SMK on the right.

John

Looks like the bullet that is loaded in the factory federal t308t tactical tru.

 

[Formidilosus]

I ordered and received 500 of the 168s. I didn’t recognize from the description at the time I ordered, that these are not TMKs. These are a tipped version of the SMK, with a much lower BC than the TMK. TMK on the left and Tipped SMK on the right.

John

It should be what was the Federal exclusive version of the TMK loaded in the Tru ammo line. It is a TMK. But one that has a an almost identical ogive to the 168gr SMK- very easy to get shooting. Phenomenal bullet.

 

[Bamban]

The 3 Amigos back in the day.



Across the course 308W




A couple of years ago just to show contrast on the line. Iron sight next to F Class gun. My McCoy rear lugged Garand in 308W. 600 yard prone match.

 

[Wrench]

I ordered and received 500 of the 168s. I didn’t recognize from the description at the time I ordered, that these are not TMKs. These are a tipped version of the SMK, with a much lower BC than the TMK. TMK on the left and Tipped SMK on the right.

John

Interesting. I have 1k of the 175's in the mail right now myself.

 

[BLJ]

I ordered and received 500 of the 168s. I didn’t recognize from the description at the time I ordered, that these are not TMKs. These are a tipped version of the SMK, with a much lower BC than the TMK. TMK on the left and Tipped SMK on the right.

John

I apologize if my post was misleading.

What I read led me to believe that these were the normal TMK’s.
I didn’t realize that here was a different version of a TMK. I thought three was just the one.

Once aging, to @Hondo64d and anyone else who ordered, my apologies.

 

[NWBLKTAIL]

I apologize if my post was misleading.

What I read led me to believe that these were the normal TMK’s.
I didn’t realize that here was a different version of a TMK. I thought three was just the one.

Once aging, to @Hondo64d and anyone else who ordered, my apologies.

I don't think you need to apologize, I would have thought the same thing as you and still did until Hondo pointed it out.

Im still gonna order 500 and shoot them up.