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Those speers wreck deer pretty well also. After I killed a buck with one at almost 200 yards and saw the damage I bought another 500. They arent sexy but they work.
Forever, I've called the Speer Hotcore, The Poor Mans Partition. I think they're that good. The biggest whitetail I ever shot was an old buck that was over 200lbs dressed. Took him with a 150gr HC from a 308. Bullet went in and out both shoulders. I'd not hesitate to use that bullet on elk.Those speers wreck deer pretty well also. After I killed a buck with one at almost 200 yards and saw the damage I bought another 500. They arent sexy but they work.

Aren't the Speer Hot-Cor bullets used in Federal Power-Shok (blue box) ammunition?Forever, I've called the Speer Hotcore, The Poor Mans Partition. I think they're that good. The biggest whitetail I ever shot was an old buck that was over 200lbs dressed. Took him with a 150gr HC from a 308. Bullet went in and out both shoulders. I'd not hesitate to use that bullet on elk.
Bullets like the Speer HC, Hornady IL, and Sierra GK are great bullets, especially at modest 308 Win velocities. The 308 is famously easy on bullets. Inside 500 yards, where most game is (and should) be taken, BC is, within reason, more or less irrelevant.
I honestly have no idea. At various times Federal has made their own bullets, but I don't know if that is still the case.Aren't the Speer Hot-Cor bullets used in Federal Power-Shok (blue box) ammunition?
Yes, I do...or a 595 Master Sporter.You don’t want that.
You want a T3 Sporter.

I know this has been discussed, but maybe you can save me a search. I wish the 6x worked for my tired eyes. Had some difficulty making out the hash marks on the 6x. Is the 10x any better? Thinking of trying one of those next. Otherwise, seems the 3-9x and 3-15x work better for me, but can't afford to outfit all my rifles that way. Thinking of outfitting one of my 308s as a "utility" rifle with a 10x SWFA, rather than strictly for hunting. I'm sold on SWFA scopes for the price, after my 3-15x took a beating on the hunt this year and remained zeroed/functional.Decisions. Waiting to get my 20” t3x from my FFL and contemplating what to put up top. I planned to have this 3-9 on my 6.5 creed thats off for a chop and thread but I forget how much I like them. I’ve never run the 10xHD before, this was a recent find that I think I got a good deal on. 6x killed 5 deer and one hog and it just works.
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3-9, 10x HD, 6x gen 2.
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how does it shoot?? They are such nice rifles!!!My latest 308 - Springfield Armory Boundary w/ 20" fluted barrel that mic's .735" at the muzzle. With Scope, sling and 4 rounds it weigh's 8lbs 9oz's. A nice compromise between packability and "settledownness" for the shot.
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It’s interesting you say you can’t make out the hash marks on the 6x since they are the same as the 3-9.I know this has been discussed, but maybe you can save me a search. I wish the 6x worked for my tired eyes. Had some difficulty making out the hash marks on the 6x. Is the 10x any better? Thinking of trying one of those next. Otherwise, seems the 3-9x and 3-15x work better for me, but can't afford to outfit all my rifles that way. Thinking of outfitting one of my 308s as a "utility" rifle with a 10x SWFA, rather than strictly for hunting.
Thank you for your assessment. I will take this into consideration at next purchase. I wear glasses, and it seems there are challenges with doing so for me and using a scope (esp. In getting the reticle in focus, and yes I know how to use the diopter). It has been awhile since I looked through a 6x, and I've had 2-3 prescription changes in that time, so maybe I need to try the 6x again.It’s interesting you say you can’t make out the hash marks on the 6x since they are the same as the 3-9.
I just had all three out doing a little low light comparison as the sun set and I had mixed lighting into the woods. The 3-9 was by far the winner in this condition. But at 6x both the 3-9 and 6x were the same for my eyes in bracketing a stump. The 10x was still useable, but noticeably darker in the same conditions. The 10x has the hollow diamonds which I’m not a huge fan of, but seem to work just fine. If you’ve used the 3-15 you know what I’m referring to vs the 3-9 and 6x MQ.
I know this has been discussed, but maybe you can save me a search. I wish the 6x worked for my tired eyes. Had some difficulty making out the hash marks on the 6x. Is the 10x any better? Thinking of trying one of those next. Otherwise, seems the 3-9x and 3-15x work better for me, but can't afford to outfit all my rifles that way. Thinking of outfitting one of my 308s as a "utility" rifle with a 10x SWFA, rather than strictly for hunting. I'm sold on SWFA scopes for the price, after my 3-15x took a beating on the hunt this year and remained zeroed/functional.
Maybe I'm not crazy then? But that too is debatableJMHO....I sold my 6x's and went to the 10x's. I could no longer make out the reticle on the 6x. The 10x - for me of course - I can make it out just fine.
I'd look through one to see for yourself.
No idea - I just got it put together. I'm no much on winter range work lol. I'll find out this spring what it can do though!how does it shoot?? They are such nice rifles!!!
