Alaska Sheep, 19C Working Group

[AK4]

The sheep in alaskas 14c were doing quite well, last I spoke with the biologist for that area - summer 2023

14C sheep are doing quite well compared to what? 2 years ago? because 15 years ago i could see sheep from my front yard nearly every day. not anymore.

 

[rickyw]

14C sheep are doing quite well compared to what? 2 years ago? because 15 years ago i could see sheep from my front yard nearly every day. not anymore.

All I have was what the biologist told me - that they were doing well. Maybe that is in context to the rest of the state. Comparing survey data from 15 years ago would be interesting

 

[FAAFO]

Tok/Delta areas have had some of the worst winters in the state in the past few years, see the Delta Bison herd status. I’m not a fan of the small caliber fad either, but I’m also not ready to attribute a plummet in population level numbers to the Creedmoor boys. Correlation doesn’t equal causation, check out how closely the fall of high seas piracy correlates with average global temperature levels. Did pirates secretly keep global warming at bay?

I’m sure wound loss happens, no doubt about that.

I don’t care what caliber someone uses to kill a sheep. I guess I should have put a after it.

I don’t think wounding loss on sheep is even close to an issue. Not even top 100. I just decided to do a DIY, non computer, 0 miles walked, 1.5 ft of elevation gain (couch) fishing trip. Fishing was good.

If you think wounding loss is an issue you might want to take some self reflection of the circle you run in. Maybe take that circle to the range. Sheep are the biggest pussies once hit with a bullet. Not hard to kill at all. Fact.

 

[FAAFO]

All I have was what the biologist told me - that they were doing well. Maybe that is in context to the rest of the state. Comparing survey data from 15 years ago would be interesting

That biologist was probably day dreaming. It seems like that’s they do down there most the time.

I remember going in and talking to biologists as a kid and they were always tanned and looked like they spent a lot of time outdoors. Walk in to our ADFG office in Palmer or Anchorage and it looks like fricking Halloween every day. They are all bright white and look like the only time they go outside is when they drive home. They all look like ghosts. It’s a true haunted house feeling. Bunch of dead animals hanging from the past, it’s down right scary.

Trick or treat? Those biologists tricked us good.

RiP dall sheep

 

[Bambistew]

All I have was what the biologist told me - that they were doing well. Maybe that is in context to the rest of the state. Comparing survey data from 15 years ago would be interesting

The total number of FC rams counted in 14c last year was less than the entire harvest 15 years ago.

Sheep are not doing well anywhere. If you want to see a real doozy. Look up the population in 13D vs harvest.

 

[rickyw]

The total number of FC rams counted in 14c last year was less than the entire harvest 15 years ago.

Sheep are not doing well anywhere. If you want to see a real doozy. Look up the population in 13D vs harvest.

I have been following 13D closely and it is way down

The comment on 14c may have been in comparison to other areas but I haven’t kept as close tabs on it because I haven’t drawn for it

 

[FAAFO]

I haven’t kept as close tabs on it because I haven’t drawn for it

there you have it. If you don’t get a tag you don’t care. There’s less sheep so less sheep hunters so less people caring.

Few care about sheep. If this was happening to moose state wide you bet your ass there would be progress.

Keep it the way it is. It is what it is. The only thing we should do different is change the draws to harvest ticket .

 

[207-12A]

That biologist was probably day dreaming. It seems like that’s they do down there most the time.

I remember going in and talking to biologists as a kid and they were always tanned and looked like they spent a lot of time outdoors. Walk in to our ADFG office in Palmer or Anchorage and it looks like fricking Halloween every day. They are all bright white and look like the only time they go outside is when they drive home. They all look like ghosts. It’s a true haunted house feeling. Bunch of dead animals hanging from the past, it’s down right scary.

Trick or treat? Those biologists tricked us good.

RiP dall sheep

This is both sad and also more accurate than people think.

 

[rickyw]

there you have it. If you don’t get a tag you don’t care. There’s less sheep so less sheep hunters so less people caring.

I think you misunderstand me sir. I care about sheep and I hunt sheep. I just don’t call the biologist for 14C every year and ask what the numbers are and how the sheep in that area are doing.

My understanding was they were doing fairly well in relation to the rest of the states sheep. But people are taking exception to that. Maybe I am mistaken, and I am happy to admit that if so.

The numbers I was given for the 14C sheep survey in 2023 were 1133 total sheep. 292 sublegals.

 

[alexanderg23]

100% draw in 5 years? That’s a pretty good bet.

 

[Meknowy]

That biologist was probably day dreaming. It seems like that’s they do down there most the time.

I remember going in and talking to biologists as a kid and they were always tanned and looked like they spent a lot of time outdoors. Walk in to our ADFG office in Palmer or Anchorage and it looks like fricking Halloween every day. They are all bright white and look like the only time they go outside is when they drive home. They all look like ghosts. It’s a true haunted house feeling. Bunch of dead animals hanging from the past, it’s down right scary.

Trick or treat? Those biologists tricked us good.

RiP dall sheep

I don't know, the bios I've talked to in ANC and the valley hunt sheep plenty. I don't keep close tabs on them, but a few years ago I talked with Brockman about the Northern Chugach and he shot a stud that year. Lohuis was hunting and netting and tagging sheep all the time. I don't know what that proves, but I think you're exaggerating.

 

[FAAFO]

I don't know, the bios I've talked to in ANC and the valley hunt sheep plenty. I don't keep close tabs on them, but a few years ago I talked with Brockman about the Northern Chugach and he shot a stud that year. Lohuis was hunting and netting and tagging sheep all the time. I don't know what that proves, but I think you're exaggerating.

Stud? He shot a horse? Not surprised.

Gosh I hope they hunt sheep. You think a rancher is a vegan? Only difference is a rancher needs to make money so he grows the herd. A biologist gets paid the same whether there’s more or less sheep. And if there’s less sheep there’s less work. So yeah….