I agree with that, but for a private business like an outfitter it makes a lot more sense then a min. cal restriction.
Hard recoiling is often relative, but I get your point. We all need to be hunting with rifles/calibers we are competent at shooting in a variety of positions/situations. I have several calibers to choose from when hunting, from 222, 6.5, 7mm, 300wsm, 300wm, 338. My go to hunting rifle is my 300wsm, unbraked, not because it is a harder recoiler, but because it shoots so damn well for me; not that the others don't; but for most hunting situations I find myself in, it fits the situation way more often than not.
Agreed. Changed my statement to say "That's what a guides test for hunting should be." Meaning if he wishes to know how his client will shoot, have him shoot in real world conditions. Probably more effective than cartridge restrictions.
I ran into a guy in the woods a few years ago packing a beautiful rifle, and he had a sling with the shell holders connected, I noticed the bullets were freakishly large and asked him what it was... it was a 338-378 wby, and I said that looks like a rough gun to shoot, he told me it was, and he doesn’t shoot it, he sighted it in and only packs it elk hunting and only plans to shoot it at a bull. It was a sweet rig, I think it was a Mark 5 variation, and had a nice leupold on it, not positive on the exacts, but he spent some dough on the setup and is admittedly unwilling to shoot it unless it’s at a live elk...
Yes, just stirring.
or the type of guy who needs the biggest everything to make up for insecurities.... like the guys who drive one tons and don't tow anything and talk trash about small pickups... lots of those types running around these days
I know folks like to knock Sitka. It is overpriced but most of it is pretty well made. The most durable of the sitka is a bit noisy for bow hunting. I always thought it odd that my pants have 2 Zippers though so you can either zip up from the bottom or zip down from the top to open the zipper. But they do have other more practical extras that none of my other clothing has which I like. I like the zippered pockets so I don't loose my junk, the knee pads and I like that they aren't real baggy. You can find a model that fits the weather you hunt in and color scheme that will best fit your type of hunting. But my favorite hunting pants of all time was a pair of camo felt pants I probably bought 30 years ago for bow hunting and still have. They are quiet and always felt warm and comfortable. I somehow cut a small hole in them with a broadhead many years ago near where the cuff would be (if it had a cuff) without cutting my leg. I don't know how I did that? But still, I like my sitka clothing. But like anything, the advertising always promotes the strength of a product and not it's weaknesses. But everyone knows you can't kill an Elk wearing anything else.
.....I'm not very cool, but the .264 Win Mag has always been cool.So what I’m gathering so far is business owners are making a decision in what they believe is their best interest and people are upset? Cool, got it. Some people have used what others consider inadequate to do what a lot of the problem children can’t do? Cool, got that to. Shot placement, bullet construction and impact velocity/energy play a part? Yup, definitely understand that. A designer rifle in 6.5 is just another attempt to compensate for the unknown? If you run a “6.fye” as part of your kit, you obviously must have your shit together right? Copy that. Some of these topics can’t die and just keep festering.
Use what your completely confident with, within in its efficient killing range. Obviously impact velocity/energy and bullet construction will give you this answer. If you can’t shoot to save your nuts, a CM and Gunwerks are not gonna make up for it. If you have the training and trigger time and are confident by all means, shoot.
My personal opinion is shoot the largest caliber you can comfortably and accurately then go burn a barrel or two out getting to know it. I know the CM has healed the sick, parted the seas and even taken a few strokes off people’s golf games do to the confidence boost it provides but it’s not the righteous finger of god as some think it is. It’s a fine cartridge for hunting and kills plenty, I know a few people that have a serious crush on them but there’s better options for elk in my opinion.
Wake me up when the 264 win mag is cool again.
