.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

View attachment 912427View attachment 912428View attachment 912429Highly recommend these ascension mags for anybody looking to load longer bullets in a tikka 223, shot 150 rounds of 75eldm loaded 2.42 as well as 100 rnds of black hills 5.56 this weekend using this mag. It worked flawlessly!
I’ve had good reliability from them also, just don’t leave them loaded out of the gun in a hot truck, they will deform, they did return back tho their normal shape after being unloaded.
 
Other than the fact that everyone kinda looks down their nose at a Ruger American, is there a reason they wouldn't work? its a 1:8 twist and I know it's a low end fit and finish gun, but generally speaking, they put bullets where they need to be.
 
Other than the fact that everyone kinda looks down their nose at a Ruger American, is there a reason they wouldn't work? its a 1:8 twist and I know it's a low end fit and finish gun, but generally speaking, they put bullets where they need to be.
Just bought one in 22ARC and love it. Action is better than expected. Shoots well. Mildly impressed.
 
Other than the fact that everyone kinda looks down their nose at a Ruger American, is there a reason they wouldn't work? its a 1:8 twist and I know it's a low end fit and finish gun, but generally speaking, they put bullets where they need to be.

The bolt is very rough on the ones I have handled. Not quite Mosin-Nagant rough, but worse than I expect from a modern factory rifle. My experience with Ruger QC, fit, and finish has also been relatively poor over the years. Triggers and feeding have always been problems for me. Historically, Ruger barrels were inconsistent, but they have allegedly fixed that. The RAR Gen2s I handled looked and felt like crap.

As long as discount or secondhand Tikkas are available (my secondhand stainless steel 6.5 CM and .223 Tikka rifles cost me $1050 for the pair, not counting taxes, fees, etc.), I would not bother with a Ruger. While not all Tikkas shoot incredibly, they do seem to shoot consistently well and the actions are smooth and reliable.

Any rifle can be customized somewhere to correct things you don’t like, but the action is the essential component. Get that right and everything else can follow.


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Other than the fact that everyone kinda looks down their nose at a Ruger American, is there a reason they wouldn't work? its a 1:8 twist and I know it's a low end fit and finish gun, but generally speaking, they put bullets where they need to be.
I’ve killed a pile of deer and one bear with an old RA and 73 ELD-Ms the past couple years. Haven’t had any issues with feeding, bolt binding, or barrel contact on mine. I don’t like the rifle and I’ve “upgraded” for this year, but it does the job just fine.
 

Anyone have experience with this stuff?
 
Other than the fact that everyone kinda looks down their nose at a Ruger American, is there a reason they wouldn't work? its a 1:8 twist and I know it's a low end fit and finish gun, but generally speaking, they put bullets where they need to be.
They work just fine. They place the bullets where you tell them to. What else do you need?

Jay
 
The bolt is very rough on the ones I have handled. Not quite Mosin-Nagant rough, but worse than I expect from a modern factory rifle. My experience with Ruger QC, fit, and finish has also been relatively poor over the years. Triggers and feeding have always been problems for me. Historically, Ruger barrels were inconsistent, but they have allegedly fixed that. The RAR Gen2s I handled looked and felt like crap.

As long as discount or secondhand Tikkas are available (my secondhand stainless steel 6.5 CM and .223 Tikka rifles cost me $1050 for the pair, not counting taxes, fees, etc.), I would not bother with a Ruger. While not all Tikkas shoot incredibly, they do seem to shoot consistently well and the actions are smooth and reliable.

Any rifle can be customized somewhere to correct things you don’t like, but the action is the essential component. Get that right and everything else can follow.


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The action on the one I got is smooth as molasses and I’ve fed over 200 rounds through it without an issue so far. Maybe I got lucky. I like it though. I’ll shorten the length of pull in a couple years with the modular stock so that my 2 girls can learn on it. Less than $1000 bucks total with SWFA and rings.
 
The action on the one I got is smooth as molasses and I’ve fed over 200 rounds through it without an issue so far. Maybe I got lucky. I like it though. I’ll shorten the length of pull in a couple years with the modular stock so that my 2 girls can learn on it. Less than $1000 bucks total with SWFA and rings.

Smooth as molasses? Sticky… icky.


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Other than the fact that everyone kinda looks down their nose at a Ruger American, is there a reason they wouldn't work? its a 1:8 twist and I know it's a low end fit and finish gun, but generally speaking, they put bullets where they need to be.
Here is a picture with 9 shots fired from a Ruger American with a 4-12 vortex BDC reticle scope on it. These are the first 9 rounds shot with the 77 TMK and that’s what it did. We shot the 10th one at steel down range. We tried some 75 ELDM’s because there was a box of 100 bullets with the rifle when we got it. It will shoot the 75 ELDM to 1 1/2”. I have not taken time dial these in any more because the TMK will be the bullet primary used in this rifle. When these 100 are gone, they’re gone. Also, the ELDM has to be single fed because it is too long (2.410) for the mags that we have.

We burned through a case of 55 grain Remington FMJ ammo in the rifle over the last 3 weeks. It shot those well too. We did have a few mis feeds with the rifle in shooting the entire case of ammo. The factory mag is kind of clumsy and does not feed real well. We stopped using it after about 20 shots and used an aftermarket one that came with the rifle. It worked much better, but still was not perfect. There were still a few mis feeds here and there.

This rifle was a gift set up as it is. We have been very happy with how it shoots, and have found it sufficient for shooting out to 500 yards for practice. It shoots the TMK really well. I am going to use it for deer season this year.
 

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Anyone have experience with this stuff?

Yes. I got around 1.5”’for 20 rounds, low 2600s from 18” barrel. Good for the price imo
 
Other than the fact that everyone kinda looks down their nose at a Ruger American, is there a reason they wouldn't work? its a 1:8 twist and I know it's a low end fit and finish gun, but generally speaking, they put bullets where they need to be.
I like my Ruger Am Gen II in 5.56, it is very accurate and my friend used it to successfully take a hog. The bolt has gotten smoother with use though it still occasionally sticks a bit.

It is a fantastic bargain if you want the features it comes with like the threaded muzzle and the spiral fluting on the barrel.

If you don't care about the extra features it comes with though, a base model Tikka T3 will be just as accurate and with a much smoother action for about the same price.
 
For those of you regularly shooting .223s at longer ranges, let's say out to 1000 yards. What would you say your hit rate would be compared to shooting a heavier bullet. Lets say 70ish grain 223 vs 147 gr 6.5CM.

Would you say that wind is an absolute killer or are you dialing for wind and still hitting at the same rate you would with the 6.5?



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