.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[grfox92]

One reason I bought a RAR 556 was to use my AR mags. Rough and cheap feeling but it shoots. Hard to justify buying a chassis for it when the chassis costs more than the gun did.... still on the fence whether or not I buy a stainless howa mini in 223 or search for a stainless tikka 223.

Blued Tikka all the way

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[dirtshooter]

Blued Tikka all the way

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Just because blued is cheaper than both the stainless mentioned above?

 

[grfox92]

Just because blued is cheaper than both the stainless mentioned above?

And a blued Tikka with a properly stress relieved barrel will be better than a factory howa

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[Nine Banger]

Would you say that wind is an absolute killer or are you dialing for wind and still hitting at the same rate you would with the 6.5?

I like that the wind calls are exaggerated in my training rifle. My Sierra 1345's are a 2.5mph gun and my 77gr SMK make a 4 mph gun with my average loads.

I have some above average guns too but tend to load them average.

 

[cloy]

For those of you regularly shooting .223s at longer ranges, let's say out to 1000 yards. What would you say your hit rate would be compared to shooting a heavier bullet. Lets say 70ish grain 223 vs 147 gr 6.5CM.

Would you say that wind is an absolute killer or are you dialing for wind and still hitting at the same rate you would with the 6.5?



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Not exactly what you asked for but I’ve taken 69gr SMK’s to 825yds. Started at 550yds, then 725, then 825. 550yds was “good” hit percentage for the wind (80% on 12”x12” target). 725 was less successful and 825 was less than 50%. Shots were chronographs and velocity spread was too high to hold 12” vertical. If I did it again with the same barrel (1-9 savage) i’d neck turn and anneal brass. If I was serious about it with 223 I’d get a 7 twist and go 80gr SMK.

Wind at 725 for that day require over 3 feet of hold. Too much to dial and too variable.

A good method of practice is 22LR at 200 yds. Mini-Palma as it was known.

Good luck.

 

[doc holiday13]

Other than the fact that everyone kinda looks down their nose at a Ruger American, is there a reason they wouldn't work? its a 1:8 twist and I know it's a low end fit and finish gun, but generally speaking, they put bullets where they need to be.

The Ruger American is the new Remington 700. Some will likely be horrendous out of the box, some will shoot like a gun 3x the price, but most will shoot better than the person pulling the trigger

 

[Bluumoon]

I’m assuming it performs the same as the black hills 77tmk ammo?

Same projectile.

 

[Bluumoon]

For those of you regularly shooting .223s at longer ranges, let's say out to 1000 yards. What would you say your hit rate would be compared to shooting a heavier bullet. Lets say 70ish grain 223 vs 147 gr 6.5CM.

Would you say that wind is an absolute killer or are you dialing for wind and still hitting at the same rate you would with the 6.5?



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I think bullet splash is the limiting factor for usefulness at the longer ranges. Usefulness doesn't necessarily mean 1st round hits for me though, it means learning to work in the wind.

I don't expect a lowish bc bullet from a .223 to compete at long range, it's a learning tool past a certain distance.

Now apples to apples high bc .224 bullet at high speed vs .264 bullet, like wind # bullets you are going to have better hit rate with lower recoil.

Hold wind dial elevation.

 

[grfox92]

I think bullet splash is the limiting factor for usefulness at the longer ranges. Usefulness doesn't necessarily mean 1st round hits for me though, it means learning to work in the wind.

I don't expect a lowish bc bullet from a .223 to compete at long range, it's a learning tool past a certain distance.

Now apples to apples high bc .224 bullet at high speed vs .264 bullet, like wind # bullets you are going to have better hit rate with lower recoil.

Hold wind dial elevation.

That's what he had me doing shooting his PRS rifles. Holding all the wind calls. I like that better than dialing. Dialing back and forth between each target is enough stress for me as a beginner.

Now if I can find someone to trade my MOA 10x SWFA for a MIL quad, I'd be more on my way .

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[ddd-shooter]

Thought there’d be a little more buzz when this thread got to page……..wait for it….556

I’ll see myself out

 

[KHntr]

Damn, better have a 223 kill posted on page 556….

 

[Matt5266]

Damn, better have a 223 kill posted on page 556….
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Nice! What's the details?! Bullet, weapon, range etc.

 

[KHntr]

One of the bulls I posted previously, I just like that pic.
223AI, R700 1976 action, 1:7 IBI barrel, 88 ELD m, Bushie LRHS, 176 yards quartering in. First poke crushed his humerus and made it to the last rib. He hopped 3 times and got a second one through the breathers as he was falling over. In retrospect I shouldn’t have shot the second time, but the shooting is the fun part…(especially when its 25* below freezing…)

Took the first pic at 4:16pm, took the last pic fully loaded in game bags on the sxs at 9:16pm. Not bad for being on my own.

 

[Moose83]

Damn, better have a 223 kill posted on page 556….
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That's the perfect day right there! Can't wait for October!

 

[ztc92]

I shot over 100 rounds on my range day with my friend. Could easily have shot more. If im going to take time away from my family once or twice a week, im going to make it count and get some shooting done.

Just for an experiment I priced out loading 1000 6.5 147s and 1000
223 69gr . It was around $475 for the .223 and $990 for 6.5.

That's a massive difference. One is unaffordable, one I could make work.

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I have this exact setup. Tikka 223 and Tikka 6.5Creed. Most of my practice is with the 223. I also reloaded both guns last year with similar cost per round.

I now only load for the 6.5 and just buy bulk 223 ammo for practice. The cost per round is so close to buy factory ammo vs handloads that it’s hardly worth it. Gives me lots more time to shoot and makes practicing a lot less stressful.

 

[Rockpicker]

Honey trap for the ft/lbs crowd.

 

[kkp005]

My 8 year old has gotten deadly with her tikka 223 / 77gr tmk combo

Shot a boar hog right through the shoulder at about 110 yards
Impact velocity of about 2400 fps
Hog ran about 30 yards and then his pump station failed

 

[Ajsomp]

My 8 year old has gotten deadly with her tikka 223 / 77gr tmk combo

Shot a boar hog right through the shoulder at about 110 yards
Impact velocity of about 2400 fps
Hog ran about 30 yards and then his pump station failed

This is what’s up! I love it- kids enjoying hunting with rigs that kill effectively AND low recoil

 

[E.Shell]

My 8 year old has gotten deadly with her tikka 223 / 77gr tmk combo

Shot a boar hog right through the shoulder at about 110 yards
Impact velocity of about 2400 fps
Hog ran about 30 yards and then his pump station failed

I kept looking at that cartridge case, trying to figure out what was wrong with it, then realized the primer wasn't flattened or cratered.

 

[Rockpicker]

I kept looking at that cartridge case, trying to figure out what was wrong with it, then realized the primer wasn't flattened or cratered.

Bruh, you’re totally leaving 200fps on the table. Those loads are totally safe. As long as you can get the bolt open it’s fine.